Tires Loaded tires

[Carl Bert]

Can someone tell me what "loaded tires" are? I realize it is filling the tires with something to add weight, but with what, and how do you go about doing this? I just bought a Kubota B26 and considering it is somewhat of a lightweight machine, I thought loading the tires might be a good idea. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks
Carl B

 

[Bill in VA]

Typically a mixture of water and calcium chloride to keep them from freezing. I guess some areas can use just water but not where I am. I assume they have an adapter for the valve and through that push in the pressurized solution.
Simply weight for traction, nutin more.

 

[RadarTech]

Do a search here.. there are dozens of threads on how to and what to use...

this is a common topic...

J

 

[DiezNutz]

Agreed. The only other wrinkle is that there's lots of advice recommending not to load tractor tires if using a backhoe. I didn't. Loaded tires do little good if they're not on the ground... and if you have a BH to counterbalance the FEL, you don't need them for that purpose either.

I imagine that advice extends to a TLB like a B26 as well. I would scope it out first and decide, I'm sure it's been discussed somewhere.

 

[Bill in VA]

One additional note:

If you do decide to do it yourself just remember not to fill them completely. They should only be filled to a max of 70-75%.

 

[Carl Bert]

Thanks guys. I guess the first thing to do would be to make sure it won't in any way affect my Kubota insurance, or even the warrantee. Don't see why it would, but I just read a post on "Mytractor" where the member said otherwise. I will look into it.

Thanks again

 

[RadarTech]

Thanks guys. I guess the first thing to do would be to make sure it won't in any way affect my Kubota insurance, or even the warrantee. Don't see why it would, but I just read a post on "Mytractor" where the member said otherwise. I will look into it.

Thanks again

If it does.. alot of us are in trouble!!

The dealer filled mine before he delivered it!

J

 

[k0ua]

I just loaded mine with Polyethelene glycol (RV antifreeze) got it at tractor supply. $4 per gallon kinda high dollar, but it is non toxic, so if you have a leak it won't kill all your animals. it is supposed to be non corrosive also.. I would not recommend calcium cloride (a salt mixture) it does weigh more, but it is corrosive, and you must use tubes which means if you have a puncture, you must drain the tire and patch it and the tube. otherwise you could just plug the puncture in a tubeless setup.They say the best is Rim Guard, a beet juice mixture, but I couldnt find any dealers locally, and it is dealer only deal. I bought the fill adaptor at Tractor Supply, and the little $6 pump at home depot. whole deal took about 3 hours from start to finish. Most difficult part was jacking up the tractor, and getting the jack stands positioned. If you want details contact me. and I will go thru it with you.
James
K0UA

 

[art]

We also use rim guard as well as the calcium chloride mix. The rim gaurd is a freindly product to metal and ground with leaks.

We have foud with farm tractors that to go to cast weights when needed that they are a one time purchase no matter how many leaks you get!

We have also found that by not having the liquid in the tires the side wall can flex more as well as quicker! It actually allows the tires to conform to the ground quicker and be able get more tracction!!!!

This has given farmers extended life on tires by over 100%

How ever some people enjoy loading there tires and making a tractor feel heavy or as explained a more solid feeling. This is not great for the pocket book but makes them feel good!!!!

My recommendation is to try it with out, you can always add it later!

 

[TripleR]

I put weights on my smaller tractors and liquid in the bigger ones. We have an older model Case with no weights and no fluid as all we use it for is bush hogging and it won't pull worth a darn, but works well for mowing.

 

[oldballs]

I put weights on my smaller tractors and liquid in the bigger ones. We have an older model Case with no weights and no fluid as all we use it for is bush hogging and it won't pull worth a darn, but works well for mowing.

Yep, the weight makes a differance even on a small (SCUT/Garden Tractor). My Case 448 (18 HP/ 2 cylinder gasser)
has had 50 lbs of cast iron weight on each wheel. It has mowed fine and it really pulls well...even logging....for 28 years now. That also allows it to do pretty good at shoving snow with chains on except it isn't 4 wheel drive.

 

[Carl Bert]

Yeah I talked to my dealer about it and he said they definitely should not be loaded for backhoe use. Plus the fact that its only a 26hp and I think asking it to pull over 4000lbs plus another 1000 or so in the loader and if thats not enough, it also has to bring the load up a very steep and long incline, is more than enough. Why push the engine any more than necessary.

Thanks
Carl B

 

[KubieTwo]

Yeah I talked to my dealer about it and he said they definitely should not be loaded for backhoe use. Plus the fact that its only a 26hp and I think asking it to pull over 4000lbs plus another 1000 or so in the loader and if thats not enough, it also has to bring the load up a very steep and long incline, is more than enough. Why push the engine any more than necessary.

Thanks
Carl B

I have a B7510 with a Woods bh that has loaded tires but I use it for other things without the backhoe. (I have Rim Guard) Also, I do not raise the wheels high when I use the bh. The tractor is so light, it doesn't matter anyway. With the wheels up, the bh will simply bury the pads on the stabilizers and still drag the tractor all over the place if you hang the bucket teeth on a big rock or root, so you don't gain anything. I have still dug out rocks even my L5030 couldn't lift. I also put a big rock in the bucket if I am doing heavy digging with the bh. I have some steep hills and I have to use L on them anyway, so it doesn't present a problem as far as pulling a full bucket even with loaded tires and bh in place. I have 21hp but a slightly lighter tractor.

I have not noticed any adverse effect yet of having loaded tires and they give it stability plus traction without the bh. For my use, this seems to work for me.

There are differences in our tractors and usage, but I am curious about why your dealer was against loaded rears. Did he say why? I could understand bending axles or at least damaging seals if I raised my wheels too high and bounced them a lot, but there is no benefit of that anyway. I gain as much or more locking the brakes and using the stabilizers just to help keep the front end down.

 

[Carl Bert]

There are differences in our tractors and usage, but I am curious about why your dealer was against loaded rears. Did he say why? I could understand bending axles or at least damaging seals if I raised my wheels too high and bounced them a lot, but there is no benefit of that anyway. I gain as much or more locking the brakes and using the stabilizers just to help keep the front end down.

I don't remember exactly what his reasons were. He said if it were the B3030 then he would recommend loading them, but not the B26. I could only guess it was a power to weight ratio. The B3030 being lighter with more power. I also remember him saying if I didn't have the backhoe then he would recommend it. Again power to weight. Anyway I chose not to load them. It does enough damage to the lawn as it is.

 

[powerstroke444e]

I have a B26 and had dealer put foam in all 4 tires which added about 1,200lbs but they will never go flat. I have 2 pretty good tears in one front tire and have found all kinds of stuff in them but no issues. I would think with out the extra weight the tractor would be rather light in the rear when using the loader? Even with the loaded tires and backhoe on I have had the rear end come up when using the loader.