Loader float function

[whirly]

well, crap.. How often do you change it ? 380 hrs on the tractor

OM says every 400 hrs.

Dealer OWES you an Ownwer's Manual!!!!!!

 

[kenmac]

OM says every 400 hrs.

Dealer OWES you an Ownwer's Manual!!!!!!

Well, he had a loader manual, but no tractor manual. Maybe I can print one on line.
I was able to find an after market HST filter on Flea Bay $49.70 free shipping Looks like dealers want around $65.00 + tax

 

[whirly]

If it was a Kubota Dealer then he has access to the OM.

You can find an MX5200 Manual on line and the operations and maintenance schedule are identical.

If you can't find it ... PM me.

 

[kenmac]

If it was a Kubota Dealer then he has access to the OM.

You can find an MX5200 Manual on line and the operations and maintenance schedule are identical.

If you can't find it ... PM me.

Well, he isn't really a kubota dealer. He is just an individual that just deals mostly in Kubota tractors. He's local ,but sells them to people all over the country. He mostly buys from kubota dealers that have taken in trades.
He is a business with a tractor lot. He told me that sometimes he gets manuals and sometimes he doesn't

Thanks for the offer.
I found a Kubota workshop manual on line. I have been looking over it before I print it off. It looks like what I'm looking for. Gives capacities , how many hrs to change, type of fluids ,etc,

If I could just get this float to operate correctly. I would be set

I think I'll like the 3rd function. He had a Kubota dealer install it

 

[D2Cat]

The float position on the valve is really pretty simple. Don't let it overwhelm you. There are usually 3 or 4 springs (about the size in a ink pen) that hold the steel balls in place and are pushed by the valve spool when you move the lever.

There is probably some moisture in the end cup and some dirt or corrosion is causing the trouble. Just needs to be cleaned up and put a touch of white lithium grease on them.

hydraulic spool repair kit - Google Search

If this link works, look at item #8 (springs) and #11 (balls) as an example of what they are and where they are located.

 

[kenmac]

The float position on the valve is really pretty simple. Don't let it overwhelm you. There are usually 3 or 4 springs (about the size in a ink pen) that hold the steel balls in place and are pushed by the valve spool when you move the lever.

There is probably some moisture in the end cup and some dirt or corrosion is causing the trouble. Just needs to be cleaned up and put a touch of white lithium grease on them.

hydraulic spool repair kit - Google Search

If this link works, look at item #8 (springs) and #11 (balls) as an example of what they are and where they are located.

Thanks, If it doesn't free up ans begin to work correctly, I may take it apart and look for a problem
I could kick myself in the AZZ for not checking this.
I did check out the other loader functions, just not the float

 

[David_Kb7uns]

On my L3130 the float got jammed up, took off the end cap and everything was rusted. Cleaned up oiled and drilled a hole at the bottom of the cap to let the water drain out and no more problems. Drill the hole big enough and you can stick a WD40 straw up there and give it shot every once in a while.

David

 

[kenmac]

On my L3130 the float got jammed up, took off the end cap and everything was rusted. Cleaned up oiled and drilled a hole at the bottom of the cap to let the water drain out and no more problems. Drill the hole big enough and you can stick a WD40 straw up there and give it shot every once in a while.

David

Thanks, I may have a chance to look into it tomorrow..
So you were able to clean it all up just by taking this end cap off ?
Nothing flew out everywhere when you took it off ?

 

[JRobyn]

Ditto on mine jamming up due to water/corrosion inside the detent assembly. Heed the tip to enclose the whole assembly in a plastic bag when you unscrew it.

 

[BleedingOrange]

Hey Kenmac, quit beating yourself up over this item that you missed checking. If that,s the biggest item you missed while checking over the whole tractor, you done good. This issue it,s really a biggy.
Lots of great help on here, so I,m sure it won,t be a big dollar to get it working properly, and we all get to learn how this valve is suppose to work at the same time.

Thanks, If it doesn't free up ans begin to work correctly, I may take it apart and look for a problem
I could kick myself in the AZZ for not checking this.
I did check out the other loader functions, just not the float

 

[Fallon]

Hey Kenmac, quit beating yourself up over this item that you missed checking. If that,s the biggest item you missed while checking over the whole tractor, you done good. This issue it,s really a biggy.
Lots of great help on here, so I,m sure it won,t be a big dollar to get it working properly, and we all get to learn how this valve is suppose to work at the same time.

$500 maybe for a whole new loader valve, not that it would really come to that. Possibly a few bucks for some springs & ballbearings. More likely just need to take it apart & clean it.

I'd have used it as a bargining chip when negotiating, but wouldn't have let that 1 item affect me buying an otherwised good used machine.

 

[kenmac]

Update::::: I got it fixed today ! It was an easy fix too !
I took off the plastic that covers the top of the valve, and found a small steel part that has a hole in it that should line up with the lock out lever, had somehow got turned on it's side. I was able to just turn it back up straight. Now the hole is lined up with the lock out lever, and the float function also works !

 

[prichard]

Good news. Glad to hear it.

 

[whirly]

Atta Boy!!

 

[kenmac]

Hey Whirly, you tried those after market HST filters on your tractor ? I ordered one off Ebay last night. Gonna try it instead of the $65.00 Kubota filter

 

[D2Cat]

HST filters are not something I'd try to save money on. IF the aftermarket filter does not do what it is suppose to do, do you have any idea of the cost to get your tractor back to working order?? Just a clue...much more than the difference in filter price.

 

[kenmac]

HST filters are not something I'd try to save money on. IF the aftermarket filter does not do what it is suppose to do, do you have any idea of the cost to get your tractor back to working order?? Just a clue...much more than the difference in filter price.

Don't think there would cost any more money than using an aftermarket Oil filter,or oil your tractor, car,truck, etc,. I don't know of anyone that uses OEM oil filters, oil, etc, in their vehicles

 

[whirly]

Hey Whirly, you tried those after market HST filters on your tractor ? I ordered one off Ebay last night. Gonna try it instead of the $65.00 Kubota filter

Mine only has 270hrs on it. Bought it @ 195 and had the dealer do a complete service as part of the deal. Checked all of the filters and they have the date they were installed on them which is about 5 weeks prior to delivery .... it shipped from PA to HI.

Let us know how it works.

 

[D2Cat]

To each his own.

 

[rbargeron]

.........Anyone got an after market # for the HST filter ? I was able to locate the Hydraulic filter but not the HST filter

I use a Baldwin BT9358 filter on my L48 HST - about $60 from these people.