Log Splitter and Backhoe Question

[inveresk]

Does your 3PT hitch and FEL work when the splitter is connected? Does the splitter valve have the PB hose connection so you can hook up all three hoses same as the BH? On my BX 25 it is obvious in the diagrams that other hydraulic items will not get power unless the PB circuit is maintained.

Ron

Everything works when the splitter is mounted. There are two connections on the splitter and bh, not three. One hose from the tractor to the splitter provides flow, one hose from the splitter back to the tractor on the return circuit. The splitter is valved. I can post some shots if it would help.

 

[J_J]

inveresk,

Is your 3pt valve the last valve in the hyd path with the splitter installed.?

Is the OUT on the splitter going to the 3pt valve?

If using no attachments, do you couple the two rear hoses together?

So your BH does not have a PB port?

Please show pictures of the OUT port of the BH valve.

 

[JK10MF1635]

You are correct in your thinking. You should have no problem using a log splitter on your tractor hyd.

If you have no attachments connected, there should be a jumper hose for the two QD's so there is a complete flow path to tank.

You would be putting the log splitter in series with the hyd flow.

If your tractor only has low GPM's. there is a log splitter valve by Prince the LSR-3060 that will take 4 GPM, and make it seem like 25 GPM, which will speed up the log splitter operation.

I just looked at your hyd flow, and it is about 11.6 GPM's. and that is good with the regular log splitter valve.

Massey Ferguson 1635 Tractor - Attachments - Specs


4 in cyl, 2 in rod, 11.6 GPM's

Extend time 6.75 sec

Retract time 5.06 sec

Total cycle time = 11.81sec

I say go for it.

Push force at 3000= 37,698lbs = 18.84 T

Pull force at 3000 = 28,274 lbs = 14.137 T

PUSH--------2500 = 31,416 lbs = 15.7 T

Pull----------------= 23,562 lbs = 11.78 T

You have three hoses at the rear. a pressure hose , call it AUX1, a hose from the 3pt , call it AUX2, and a tank hose from the BH.

If no attachment is connected, a short hose will connect AUX1 and AUX2 together to complete the flow path through the 3pt and to tank. This is normal flow with no attachments.

If using BH, AUX1 is connected to IN for the BH. AUX 2 from the 3pt is connected to the PB on the BH for the correct flow path. The AUX3 hose is for the BH cyl OUT fluid and goes to tank.

To use log splitter, Connect the AUX 1 to the IN on the log splitter, and connect the hose from the log splitter OUT to the AUX2, AUX3 hose is not normally used with the log splitter.

A potential problem exist using the OUT port on the log splitter valve for the flow path, as the manufacture has put about a 500 psi limit on the OUT port.

There is a way around this and that is to use the 3pt to position or set the log splitter working height, then lock the 3pt descend knob down to lock in place.

Now the OUT hose from the log splitter will go to tank with no possible back pressure, and AUX2 hose is not used. The 3pt is not in the circuit anymore. Log splitter will have normal operation.

Thanks JJ! I did give my dealer a call yesterday and that is what he told me as well as far as how it should be hooked up.

Now I'm trying to decide what splitter to get. My MF dealer has Split-Fire 3.5" piston with 24" spread for $1300, or the New Holland Dealer has American Wood Splitter 4" piston 30" spread for $750 but its a vertical only splitter. The price is so good on that bc he has had it for quite a while and wants to get rid of it. If I ordered a new Horizontal one and only a 24" spread then its $934. Or Tractor Supply has one for $699 thats 4" X 24". I'm kind of leaning towards the CountyLine from TSC right now because of the price and the fact that I'm just using it for my own need of 5-8 cords of wood a year. I am thinking it will be just fine. IDK I guess I will go take a look at it today.

Anyone have any opinions on these three models?

 

[inveresk]

inveresk,

Is your 3pt valve the last valve in the hyd path with the splitter installed.?
I believe so but can't be sure.

Is the OUT on the splitter going to the 3pt valve?
I believe it bypasses the 3pt valve.

If using no attachments, do you couple the two rear hoses together?
Yes.

So your BH does not have a PB port?
No.

Please show pictures of the OUT port of the BH valve.

Here are those shots.

 

[J_J]

Here are those shots.

The first two answers conflict each other.

Let me ask it this way. Does the OUT fluid of the log splitter valve go to tank?

If so, you have no 3pt utilization.

Once you remove the log splitter and connect the two hoses together, then you have 3pt operation.

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[inveresk]

Three point hitch works fine with log splitter attached. It is not disabled. Once I disconnect the bh or log splitter, I reconnect the hoses to complete the loop. Hope this clarifies.

 

[WilliamBos]

I have a MF1635 with the MF CB20 backhoe and the power beyond to run it. I am looking at 3pt log spliters and am wondering if I got one that didn't have the reservoir and PTO pump, and just runs off the tractor hydraulics could I just hook it into where my backhoe plugs into? Obviously if I'm going to use the spliter the backhoe will be off. I do not have any rear remotes so that is why I am wondering if this option will work. I don't see why it wouldn't but am not sure. I would think that would supply the hydraulics and then it would be operated by the control valve on the spliter.

What do you guys think?

Thanks

We run a Wallenstwin WX 310 on the same tractor, but no BH. Just run the splitter off the rear remotes.