Log splitter question

   / Log splitter question #21  
A 2 or 3 in cyl would work, depending on the angle for the mount .

You have sufficient push force.

GPM's, stroke and placement of the cyl will determines speed.

A 2 in cyl and 1 in rod, will have a straight push force of 9,125 lbs

Same cyl and pressure but pushing at 45 degrees = 6,664 lbs
 
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#22  
Got another question for JJ. I like your idea of just replacing the pump and using the present engine. That's what I'm gonna do. This engine is a chinese clone purchased @ Harbor Freight when they were on sale for $99. Name tag says 196cc. I've looked at all the conversion charts I can find, and it could convert to anywhere from 5 to 11.5hp. I think it's supposed to be 6.5. As long as I'm buying a new pump anyhow, if this is a 6.5, it should run a 13gpm pump. What do you think? I'd like to have a lttle more speed if possible.
 
   / Log splitter question #24  
I'm not JJ (duh), but IMO, I'd stay with the 11.

A 13 gpm is pushing it on a 6.5hp motor. Given your uncertanty, and it being a chinese clone, and there isnt much noticable difference in the 11 and 13, I'd err on the side of caution and get the 11. Nothing would be more frustrating than getting the 13 only to find out it dont work.
 
   / Log splitter question #25  
Educate me on how you will convert a 6.5 HP to a 11 HP.

He said he had a 8 HP Honda engine in first post, then he mentioned a 6.5 HP.

Either one will work.
 
   / Log splitter question #26  
Educate me on how you will convert a 6.5 HP to a 11 HP.

He said he had a 8 HP Honda engine in first post, then he mentioned a 6.5 HP.

Either one will work.

If you are talking to me,

NOT 11hp, but 11gpm. 6.5hp for an 11gpm pump.

6.5hp is the BARE MINIMUM for the 13gpm pump. And given he is uncertain as to what its EXACT size is, I if it were me, I wouldnt push my luck with the 13 gpm pump. I'd stay with teh 11gpm pump.
 
   / Log splitter question #27  
That post was for Eyecatcher

The 6.5 HP engine will work and has been used for many years to power the 13 GPM pump.

Unloader range 400 to 900 psi

If the unloader on the 13 GPM pump is set to 600 psi, it only takes 5 HP
 
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#28  
I guess I wasn't clear on the conversion. I found one conversion table that said divide cc by 17=hp 196/17=11.52. that certainly doesn't sound right.
the other extreme in conversion tables said divide cc by 25 to 30=hp 196/30=6.5. Looks like there is only about $10 difference between 11 & 13 gpm pumps, however there's an 11gal Haldex on ebay for 106.35 including shipping. Still thinking about it.
 
   / Log splitter question #29  
That post was for Eyecatcher

The 6.5 HP engine will work and has been used for many years to power the 13 GPM pump.

Unloader range 400 to 900 psi

If the unloader on the 13 GPM pump is set to 600 psi, it only takes 5 HP

I was looking more at the high-pressure side.

3.4gpm @ 3000psi relief requires 6hp @ 100% eff. Drop that to 85% eff and you need 7hp.

I know it would rarley see that peak 3000psi, but just sayin. Also, like I said, given he is uncertain about that motor, and it IS a chinese clone......

And given that there is LESS than a 2 second difference in TOTAL cycle times (4"x 24" x 2" cylinder), personally I would go with the 11gpm pump. Just not enough difference to justify the risk of it not working IMO. But to each his own.
 
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#30  
EUREKA - I FOUND IT!!! I was going to put the paperwork that came with the original pump away, and order a new pump. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. Staring me right in the face on the drawing was "unloader valve assy". I had never noticed that before, and I was sitting here wondering how it worked. I went down and took it apart, and everything was clean and shiny. Decided to try the splitter again after I re-assembled, and nothing had changed. Setting there pondering where to go next, I remembered a post where someone said the first thing he did if he found a suction strainer/filter was throw it as far as he could. I didn't remember if there was anything like that down in the tank, but decided to pull it apart and look. The tank I used came off an old Clark forklift in a wrecking yard, looked nice and clean when I installed it. Luckily, the suction line is welded into a hand hole held down by 4 nuts. On the end of that pipe was a small filter, encased in a larger tube with the end of the filter capped. From what I could see, it looked clean, but remembering the best advice was to get rid of it, I was able to pry the cap off the little filter. Never did get the filter completly off, but taking the cap off left the entire end off the pipe open, so figured that was good enough. Put it back together, and the extension time which was 35 seconds is now 12. Now the gauges indicates whenever the ram moves.

I really want to thank all you guys here on TBN. It's better than going to school.
 

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