Looking at a Kioti BackHoe

keeney · Feb 21, 2004

I am looking at adding a Kioti Backhoe to my John Deere 4100 (a very small compact). The John Deere BH for my tractor is too expensive and the local Kioti dealer has a used BH that I can certainly adapt.

I just want a small BH for a small garage addition project (5' deep footings) and then use it for light landscaping, drainage, sprinkler system, tree planting.

Can Kioti Backhoe owners out there comment on the functionality and durability of their backhoes?

Speed, ease of use, capacity, quirks, problems?

Anybody with experience on multiple brands of stuff that can compare them to the Kioti?

- Rick

DK35vince · Feb 21, 2004

Do you know the model # of the backhoe ?
Many of the previous Kioti backhoes and Rhino backhoes were the same hoe.
I am running a Rhino 85 backhoe on my DK 35 ( same hoe as the Kioti 2085) and I like it so far.
The model numbers on the new Kioti hoes has changed recently. So the manufacturer may have also changed on the new models.

virgil · Feb 21, 2004

Kioti does not build their back hoe. Just like most compact tractor manufactures do not build their own back hoes.
Might I sugest that you get a frame mounted hoe. It is a lot stronger. Every time that I have been on a 3 point hoe, I ended up pinching a button-hole in the seat.
Lots of good little hoes on the market.

Dewave · Feb 21, 2004

Can Kioti Backhoe owners out there comment on the functionality and durability of their backhoes? 

Your kidding me! Have ya read any of my posts? Am I missing something?

OR

This backhoe thingy sounds interesting. Maybe I'll try it.
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wallace · Feb 21, 2004

Keeny, I am a Rhino and a Bush hog dealer and I looked thru the books and there is no listing in Rhino or Bush hog /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I will call the manufacture on Monday and see what they say.
I am a kioti dealer and I would be more than happy to send you a picture of what the subframes look like mounted on the backhoes, They look very easy to build. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wallace · Feb 21, 2004

Hey Virgil, KIOTI is making there own backhoes now /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Dewave · Feb 21, 2004

I am a kioti dealer and I would be more than happy to send you a picture of what the subframes look like mounted on the backhoes 

Click that red thingy below my name and choose slide show for some pictures of my subframe

virgil · Feb 21, 2004

wallace
Maby I missed something, only sold 2 back hoes so far this year. Are you telling me that Kioti offers a Kioti hoe? As in it is NOT K.M.W.???

Kiohio · Feb 21, 2004

Virgil,
The backhoes were built by SMC before. They are now being built by KIOTI. The backhoes were well built before. The new ones are even better. They have a better approach angle now too. When they were built by SMC/RHINO the hoes always drug the ground when loading onto the trailer, now they do not drag.

KO

virgil · Feb 21, 2004

thanks for the info guys

KiotiJohn · Feb 21, 2004

come on Dewave, just tell the man how great you think the backhoe is. I'd tell him myself, but mine is STILL BACKORDERED until March /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif OK, I'll tell him. Dewave told us all that his backhoe just makes that tractor dance, and he's been digging all kinds of trees out with it. Pushing them down too! The Kioti backhoes are good. Buy you one. John
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keeney · Feb 21, 2004

The local Kioti dealer said he has a used one. I am not sure what model it is, and if it is the "old" or "new" manufacturer. He was going to get the information and get back to me on Monday.

Local = 60 mile drive each way, so it may be next weekend before I can actually go look at it.

Looking at the sub-frame mount, I am a bit concerned that I will be able to leave it on and still use the mid-mower and/or 3-point hitch.

- Rick

DK35vince · Feb 21, 2004

The new Korean models have only recently been availible so its most likely the Kioti/Rhino model.
Which is fine they work real well.

DK35vince · Feb 21, 2004

I don't have much for pictures of my Rhino 85, its buried in the shed for the winter.
But I do have one of a Rhino 75.

KiotiJohn · Feb 21, 2004

Find out what model the BH is, and someone can tell you more about it. I ordered the same one Dewave has, the KB2365 and he swears by it. I'm sure I will too. John
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wallace · Feb 22, 2004

kiotijohn I think there is a problem with your backhoe order, because everything is available from kioti. We received our subframes 3weeks ago. I would be more than happy to help you and your dealer out, to get you on your backhoe if time is a real factor!!

KiotiJohn · Feb 22, 2004

Thanks Wallace, I'll check into it and see what's going on. I thought it seemed like an awfully long time for a backorder. Maybe it's because higher volume dealers are getting theirs first? This dealer is a little new to Kioti and maybe hasn't been selling as many as others have. Thanks and I'll let you know if you can help. Really nice of you to offer. John
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rback33 · Feb 23, 2004

KMW has never made any hoes for Kioti.... Subframes.. yes... hoes no.....

KiotiDave · Feb 23, 2004

kiotijohn,
I was told just saturday that the CK20 backhoe frames will not be in until mid to late march. I have one sold and have to wait also.

KiotiJohn · Feb 23, 2004

My dealer told me today that he called and was told that my subframe came in last week. A lot of different information huh? Well, we'll see, as my dealer is getting up an order now to submit. I hope I get it soon, I'm tired of waiting! Thanks KiotiDave for checking. John
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