Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST

   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST #22  
Muzbomb, no real wrong answer with the various new or older smallish Kioti tractors. I had a CK20 for several years and loved it. It is pretty close to the 2510 which replaced it. On 3 acres that's all you need.

Thinking ahead the SSQA mount is certainly very useful but you can add one to the 2510 for far less than the up charge for the 2610. I added one to my CK20 to use a grapple, tree boom and 4n1 bucket.

I wouldn't hesitate to get a used CK20/25/27/30 either, all of which would be less money than a new CK2510 and of similar or greater capacity for the type of work you describe.

And, my dealer is a ferry ride plus 300 miles away. Never needed to take a tractor back to the dealer in ten years. Kiotis are reliable and pretty simple to maintain and fix.
 
   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST
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There is such a big price difference from the 2510 to the 2610 and doesn't seem like very much difference. Here in canada the price difference is 3282. Is there really 3282 worth of difference on the 2610? Only thing I wish is the 2510 had quick attach bucket and I would be sold for with out a doubt.
 
   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST #24  
$500 should get you a SSQA and you can have a SSQA receiver plate welded to your stick bucket for a few hundred more.
 
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$500 should get you a SSQA and you can have a SSQA receiver plate welded to your stick bucket for a few hundred more.

That is perfect then will talk with dealer tomorrow. 500 is better then 3282 lol. I really like that 2510 too so this will make the decision easy if my dealer can do this for me.
 
   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST #26  
Jeff is being a little catty here and saying that the OP should have a close dealer since he requires spoon feeding and doesn't want to do his own research. I think the guy is doing good by coming here. If a feller isn't happy helping in threads like this, he certainly doesn't have to.

OP, we can't tell you if the difference in tractor is worth the difference in price to you. You have to determine that for yourself. We can give our opinions, but you need to see and drive both tractors and decide for yourself.

The 2610 has a stronger loader. What's that worth to you? To me it's worth several hundred dollars, easily. You ask about getting a SSQA loader. What's the point if your loader can only lift 1000# at the pins. Move the weight out a few inches for the SSQA, add your implement weight, not much left. A stronger loader will be nice every time you use it.

The 2610 has bigger tires. Bigger tires can put more traction to the ground. They will make the ride more comfortable for the operator. Worth something to you? It is to me.

The 2610 weighs more. It will be able to pull bigger implements, tow larger trailers, skid bigger logs. What's that worth to you?

The 2610 has a three range hydrostatic transmission. In my opinion, a two range transmission is missing the most important gear.

The 2610 will lift more on the three point hitch. You can use a wider array of implements.

I've never driven either one. I'm not shopping. You are. Who knows, one might be very comfortable for you to drive and layed out intuitively. The other might be totally opposite.

I can't tell you if one is worth the extra money, but if you enable your tasks closely, look at the specs and drive both of them, your should be able to figure it out.

Lastly regarding Jeff's comments. You may not need frequent service from your dealer, but it is handy to have a good dealer who will answer questions and look up answers that they don't know. It's nice if they can get parts quickly. It's good if they're good people who want your business. They don't need to be real close, but dealer quality is something to take into consideration.
 
   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST #27  
Jeff is being a little catty here and saying that the OP should have a close dealer since he requires spoon feeding and doesn't want to do his own research.

Lastly regarding Jeff's comments: It is handy to have a good dealer who will answer questions and look up answers that they don't know. It's nice if they can get parts quickly. It's good if they're good people who want your business. They don't need to be real close, but dealer quality is something to take into consideration.

A prize for MOTOWNBROWNE, for Reading Comprehension.

For the rest, remedial Language Arts.
 
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   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST #28  
Jeff is being a little catty here and saying that the OP should have a close dealer since he requires spoon feeding and doesn't want to do his own research. I think the guy is doing good by coming here. If a feller isn't happy helping in threads like this, he certainly doesn't have to.

OP, we can't tell you if the difference in tractor is worth the difference in price to you. You have to determine that for yourself. We can give our opinions, but you need to see and drive both tractors and decide for yourself.

The 2610 has a stronger loader. What's that worth to you? To me it's worth several hundred dollars, easily. You ask about getting a SSQA loader. What's the point if your loader can only lift 1000# at the pins. Move the weight out a few inches for the SSQA, add your implement weight, not much left. A stronger loader will be nice every time you use it.

The 2610 has bigger tires. Bigger tires can put more traction to the ground. They will make the ride more comfortable for the operator. Worth something to you? It is to me.

The 2610 weighs more. It will be able to pull bigger implements, tow larger trailers, skid bigger logs. What's that worth to you?

The 2610 has a three range hydrostatic transmission. In my opinion, a two range transmission is missing the most important gear.

The 2610 will lift more on the three point hitch. You can use a wider array of implements.

I've never driven either one. I'm not shopping. You are. Who knows, one might be very comfortable for you to drive and layed out intuitively. The other might be totally opposite.

I can't tell you if one is worth the extra money, but if you enable your tasks closely, look at the specs and drive both of them, your should be able to figure it out.

Lastly regarding Jeff's comments. You may not need frequent service from your dealer, but it is handy to have a good dealer who will answer questions and look up answers that they don't know. It's nice if they can get parts quickly. It's good if they're good people who want your business. They don't need to be real close, but dealer quality is something to take into consideration.

Just to chime in with a slightly different perspective.... The CK2510 is essentially the replacement for the CK20s. The CK2610 replaces the CK27/30 as best I can tell. The CK20 and CK27/30 each have had very loyal owners and all of those tractors were/are workhorses. I used a CK20 with 1070lbs of loader lift and a six foot backhoe to clear about three acres of overgrown land. I then replaced it with a DK40se and a 9 foot backhoe and cleared another 5-8 acres. Was there a difference? You bet there was. Doubling the horsepower and going up more than 150% in loader capacity made work go faster. However, other than lifting one specific 2000lb rock and a few large stumps, there was actually no task that the DK40 set up did that I couldn't have done with more time using the CK20. I think the same will be true of the CK2510 compared to the CK2610. I do like the bigger loader on the 2610 and agree that a three speed hydro is much more pleasant to use. However, I'd still say that for a three acre lot the CK2510 is more than enough tractor. And, if I had an extra $3300 to spend on a tractor, I'd seriously think about the work potential of a CK2510 with optional SSQA and a grapple ($1500) plus a boxblade ($750) plus rear remotes ($500) and compare that setup to a plain CK2610 for the same budget. If money was no object I'd take the 2610 because of the loader and 3 speed hydro but honestly for a three acre lot that would be bordering on overkill.

Here are a few things you can do with a loader that lifts "only" 1070lbs with an SSQA grapple operated off rear remotes:
 

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   / Looking at buying a brand new CK2510HST #29  
Just to chime in with a slightly different perspective.... The CK2510 is essentially the replacement for the CK20s. The CK2610 replaces the CK27/30 as best I can tell. The CK20 and CK27/30 each have had very loyal owners and all of those tractors were/are workhorses. I used a CK20 with 1070lbs of loader lift and a six foot backhoe to clear about three acres of overgrown land. I then replaced it with a DK40se and a 9 foot backhoe and cleared another 5-8 acres. Was there a difference? You bet there was. Doubling the horsepower and going up more than 150% in loader capacity made work go faster. However, other than lifting one specific 2000lb rock and a few large stumps, there was actually no task that the DK40 set up did that I couldn't have done with more time using the CK20. I think the same will be true of the CK2510 compared to the CK2610. I do like the bigger loader on the 2610 and agree that a three speed hydro is much more pleasant to use. However, I'd still say that for a three acre lot the CK2510 is more than enough tractor. And, if I had an extra $3300 to spend on a tractor, I'd seriously think about the work potential of a CK2510 with optional SSQA and a grapple ($1500) plus a boxblade ($750) plus rear remotes ($500) and compare that setup to a plain CK2610 for the same budget. If money was no object I'd take the 2610 because of the loader and 3 speed hydro but honestly for a three acre lot that would be bordering on overkill.

Here are a few things you can do with a loader that lifts "only" 1070lbs with an SSQA grapple operated off rear remotes:

Nice pictures!

I didn't mean to say that smaller machines are useless. Personally I'd love a B series Kubota with all the bells and whistles. I'm thinking cab and front snow blower would be pretty trick.

I just wanted to demonstrate to the OP that he is the one who needs to determine the value of these machines for himself.
 

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