atsah
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It must be added on by the owner because it was not offered until the 1723/1725.. Probably a worksaver like mine.
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Looking at Massey GC - new vs used, 1705 vs 1715
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It must be added on by the owner because it was not offered until the 1723/1725.. Probably a worksaver like mine.
eubie5
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The new one i was looking at, the QA was an added option. I think it was a $300 option. It looked factory. He had 2 with the QA, all the rest were pin onIt must be added on by the owner because it was not offered until the 1723/1725.. Probably a worksaver like mine.
atsah
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The new one i was looking at, the QA was an added option. I think it was a $300 option. It looked factory. He had 2 with the QA, all the rest were pin on
$300 is cheap, I paid a little over $600 for mine.
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thefisherman
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It must be added on by the owner because it was not offered until the 1723/1725.. Probably a worksaver like mine.
I looked at new 1715s at a dealer today. Three of the five they had in stock had factory QA on them.
atsah
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I looked at new 1715s at a dealer today. Three of the five they had in stock had factory QA on them.
Guess they added the option to the remaining GC1705, 15 and 20. Didn't know that but it was not optional on any of them in 2015 when I bought mine.. Haven't been to the dealer in a while.
Been looking too at new used. Ill say this up front if saving a buck is important theres no problem with that, I do it to at times, saving money is saving money.
But with that being said every time I find new used its been the difference of a few hundred bucks to at best maybe 2k, i have even found some private sales where new used was more then buying new. The other consideration though is sometimes newer means upgraded components, also another year or two in warranty means something as well.
Frankly to buy something that was cost effective I had to look at least 5 years old, and was really looking at something closer to 10 years old, combined with hours and such I am just interested in other peoples problems at this stage in life.
But with that being said every time I find new used its been the difference of a few hundred bucks to at best maybe 2k, i have even found some private sales where new used was more then buying new. The other consideration though is sometimes newer means upgraded components, also another year or two in warranty means something as well.
Frankly to buy something that was cost effective I had to look at least 5 years old, and was really looking at something closer to 10 years old, combined with hours and such I am just interested in other peoples problems at this stage in life.
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thefisherman
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Well, here's where I am now. I decided against Bruno's. Didn't really wanna do business with a pump-n-dump dealer.
Local dealer is all out of 1705s, but has a pile of 1715s in stock. He'd do a new 2018 for $12,000, plus $2650 for the MMM and $895 for the 48" woods blade. Total of $15,545 + 7.2% tax = $16,664.24.
The alternative is a used 2017 GC1715 with only 117 hours for $10,500. They'll add a new MMM for $2400 and a Brush Chief (locally company) 48" box blade for $600. Total of $13,500 + 5.675% tax = $14,266.13.
So I'm looking at saving $2,398 for a one year old unit with only 117 hours. To me it's worth it. I realize I'm losing a year of warranty but that $2400 savings buys a pretty sizable amount of potential repairs. What do the more experienced folks think?
Local dealer is all out of 1705s, but has a pile of 1715s in stock. He'd do a new 2018 for $12,000, plus $2650 for the MMM and $895 for the 48" woods blade. Total of $15,545 + 7.2% tax = $16,664.24.
The alternative is a used 2017 GC1715 with only 117 hours for $10,500. They'll add a new MMM for $2400 and a Brush Chief (locally company) 48" box blade for $600. Total of $13,500 + 5.675% tax = $14,266.13.
So I'm looking at saving $2,398 for a one year old unit with only 117 hours. To me it's worth it. I realize I'm losing a year of warranty but that $2400 savings buys a pretty sizable amount of potential repairs. What do the more experienced folks think?
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Depends. How are you paying for it? If making payments, new at 0% looks pretty good. If i did my own financing(i didn't), the best rate i could get was 3.99/83 months at my credit union.Well, here's where I am now. I decided against Bruno's. Didn't really wanna do business with a pump-n-dump dealer.
Local dealer is all out of 1705s, but has a pile of 1715s in stock. He'd do a new 2018 for $12,000, plus $2650 for the MMM and $895 for the 48" woods blade. Total of $15,545 + 7.2% tax = $16,664.24.
The alternative is a used 2017 GC1715 with only 117 hours for $10,500. They'll add a new MMM for $2400 and a Brush Chief (locally company) 48" box blade for $600. Total of $13,500 + 5.675% tax = $14,266.13.
So I'm looking at saving $2,398 for a one year old unit with only 117 hours. To me it's worth it. I realize I'm losing a year of warranty but that $2400 savings buys a pretty sizable amount of potential repairs. What do the more experienced folks think?
New is always nice, but that 2400 could buy a couple sub-compact implements.
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Also, that's a good deal on the new 1715.
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Yes he did try hard to earn my business and put together a great deal. It's not that I don't think it's a good deal, it's just trying to balance the new vs used savings. Of course the brand new shiny one is very appealing.
As for payment I'll be financing it. The price quoted for the new one is the cash/standard financing price, add about $1800 to get the 0% financing - which is more than I'll pay in interest at the term I'm borrowing. Rate on the new one is 5.74%, and my credit union that I've been with for over ten years won't go under 8% since they won't count a tractor as collateral - they consider the loan a signature loan.
And yeah I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered putting that savings toward a 3 point tiller and a landscape rake. Our garden is currently about 700 square feet that I till with a 20" rear tine. I'd love to at least double it and start up some taters and such and a 3 point tiller would make the prep part a breeze.
As for payment I'll be financing it. The price quoted for the new one is the cash/standard financing price, add about $1800 to get the 0% financing - which is more than I'll pay in interest at the term I'm borrowing. Rate on the new one is 5.74%, and my credit union that I've been with for over ten years won't go under 8% since they won't count a tractor as collateral - they consider the loan a signature loan.
And yeah I'd be lying if I said I hadn't considered putting that savings toward a 3 point tiller and a landscape rake. Our garden is currently about 700 square feet that I till with a 20" rear tine. I'd love to at least double it and start up some taters and such and a 3 point tiller would make the prep part a breeze.