Comparison Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase

   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #31  
I'm not fond of the rocker pedal myself and if I had stayed in the 30 -35HP range tractor I probably would have went with TYM as their 35HP was a dual pedal set up and I was very comfortable on the machine as well the price was the best. Have you looked at any LS brand tractors as they also have the 2 pedal system. I did find the LS to be a bit uncomfortable as compared but for some it might be just the ticket.
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #32  
When I was tractor shopping 6 years ago I tried a lot of the rocker peddles also, hated them all. For me the side by side was just a lot more intuitive and easier on the knee and ankle.
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #33  
I like the 'rocker pedal' that the Mahindra has. It actually is a rocker pedal but the rocker itself is below the floor, leaving the two pedals sticking up thru the floor as if they are separate pedals. Smooth floor between the two pedals. It works well for me. I can see where a conventional rocker could be inconvenient.
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #34  
My personal opinion is that the dual pedal vs. rocker pedal thing is the most to-do about nothing that's ever been. For me, it's a non-issue and I have both types. I suspect that which ever kind you get, you will get used to and won't think about it again.

That's just my opinion - I'm not stating it as fact. Others here seem to be really dug in to the position that 2 is better than one.

If you've ever ridden a BMW motorcycle that has blinker switches on both sides vs. the single blinker switch that other motorcycles use, it's the same issue. Paper or plastic, vanilla or chocolate, etc.
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase
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I'm not opposed to a machine with a rocker/treadle style pedal, provided that the pedal and platform layout is otherwise comfortable. I drove a Kubota L3301 at one dealer, and the Kioti CK30 at another, and the difference in how they "fit" me were night and day. If the Kioti CK30 had the same "fit", I would not hesitate one minute to buy it, but I am really concerned about long-term. To put a point on it, I bought a Hyundai Sonata in 2011 to commute 50 miles to my job everyday, based on about a ten-mile test drive. After about a week of driving that thing, I wished I had kept shopping. It was simply not a comfortable car for me, for a long drive. I've made a dozen 700+ mile trips in that car and I think I'd have rather driven my old tractor. Same concept applies to the tractor. If I have hesitation after piddling around with it in the dealer's parking lot for ten minutes, I can tell you for sure that I will not be happy running it for a couple of hours at a time.

I'm going to look at two more brands - I found a TYM dealer about 45 miles away, and I also found an LS dealer about 35 miles away. I'm going to see what they have and maybe take a chance. I'm not much of a mechanic so I worry about parts and repairs, but it's also not how I make a living so I can do without a tractor for a week or two (or more). Also have heard good things about the Grand L series of Kubotas, which are way out of my price range as new machines, but maybe I can find an L3240 or L3540 as a low-hour used machine and decide if that's worth the loss of warranty.
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #36  
Is it true that the kioti's are the only tractors that you can keep working when they go through a regeneration and all others you have to park?

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My Kubota B3350 will regen on-the-fly as long as rpm is 2000 or more. I can "default" select if I want it to auto-regen or if I want to wait and do it parked. After starting, if I push the AutoRegen switch, it's regen during normal ops. If I don't select AutoRegen, then it will blink when it wants to regen and I can either ignore it until it forces a parked regen, or I can increase rpms and select Auto, or I can park it and let it do its thing. Parked regen, which I've only done twice in 150 hours, is my least preferable way to deal with it. However, parked regen would be the only option if you are just using the tractor for short, less than 20 minutes, periods of time.

I still don't like the whole regen, Tier 4 thing . . . but, I will say that so far it is pretty much transparent. The only operational issue, for me anyway, is that with non-DPF tractors one might leave the thing in idle or longish periods of time. With the DPF, that's a no-no, you have to avoid longer periods of idling if you can. So I find myself shutting down and restarting often. The hassle with that is the B3350 has a turbo, and I need to let it idle for a minute or two to cool the turbo so it doesn't coke its bearings. PITA sitting there waiting, Kubota should have included a shutoff timer with safety override so you could just turn off the key and walk away. (Building a timer is on my long lists of stuff to do.)

bumper

Edit: After posting above, I was inspired to search for diesel shut off timers on fleabay. Go figure, I didn't even know they existed and I thought maybe I had a smashing idea and another patent . . . oh well, $25 and free shipping from our "friends" in China.
 
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   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #37  
Mahindra's don't require regen. :)

Introducing our Tier IV "mCRD Technology" | Mahindra

from the link:

Diesel Oxidation Catalyst (DOC)

" DOC after treatment system in mCRD™ does not require any regeneration and meets emission standards at a lower cost, keeping more money in your pocket. Means less maintenance required through reduced system complexity by eliminating Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) resulting in no backpressure monitor and filter cleaning for greater engine protection."
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #38  
To the OP:

When looking at the LS tractors, see if you can find an R3039, or the XR3037 (which is the tier 4 model that replaced the former...). There is also an XR3032.

Also, I know you mentioned you'd be fine with the CK30 vs the 35, because you don't "need" the extra HP. I would urge you to get the most HP available in a particular frame size. For example, if the same tractor comes with different HP range engine configurations, get the largest available.

I am on my fourth tractor, and I have never, never once said "boy I wish I had less HP" ... In fact, I have often found that I would gladly welcome more.

You can't add HP later. Better to have and not need, than need and not have. My thoughts anyhow ... and I'm a victim of that adage myself. I wish I had a Massey 1652 instead of my 1648.

Oh, and in regards to the dual pedal vs rocker... I've had both. While I prefer the twin pedal setup, as was already mentioned, you will quickly get used to either setup. And most of the Kubota club love their rocker. Eye of the beholder, to be sure...
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #39  
To the OP:
And most of the Kubota club love their rocker. Eye of the beholder, to be sure...

if a Kubota had a pocupine screwed to a foot lever and they had to step on that, the Kubota club would still love their Kubota.

Kubotas are like Harleys and Glocks. Whether they're good or bad, their owners like them above all else.

Eye of the beholder, to be sure...
 
   / Looking for opinions - new tractor purchase #40  
if a Kubota had a pocupine screwed to a foot lever and they had to step on that, the Kubota club would still love their Kubota.

Kubotas are like Harleys and Glocks. Whether they're good or bad, their owners like them above all else.

Eye of the beholder, to be sure...

LOL. That was truly funny!

But as a disclaimer, I like my Glock :D
 

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