Looking to buy my first tractor

   / Looking to buy my first tractor #11  
A 30 HP,FWD and 2500lb.tractor will do your road work,just size implements to fit.I.E.box blade.
A box blade is a wonderful tool for dry material,a land plane also will work.I have a York rake that I sometimes use also.
You may be able to help pay for your equipment by doing the whole road.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #12  
Agree w/nybirdman :thumbsup: most of all have the controls come to you so your comfortable in the seat.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #13  
A 30 HP,FWD and 2500lb.tractor will do your road work,just size implements to fit.I.E.box blade.
A box blade is a wonderful tool for dry material,a land plane also will work.I have a York rake that I sometimes use also.
You may be able to help pay for your equipment by doing the whole road.
Load tires, get shuttle shift for ground engagement. With loaded tires, loader and BB total weight of a 1526 will be plus 4,500 lbs. you might move a little slow, but you don't grade the roads every day.

Look at Massey and Koiti also. Kubota in your price range is too light. You need to pick the HD loader with Kioti.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #14  
If in fact i need something in the 40 hp range, who do you think gives the most bang for the buck?
I see Kioti and LS being thrown around alot.
I dont need all the bells and whistled either. Im sure I'll end up using the tractor for other things, but it's primary role will be for maintaining our road.

I think LS and Kioti give the most bang for the buck right now. They are both companies who have been around a while, have made a lot of tractors, and aren't likely to go anywhere.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #15  
How many acres you have to contend with? I am sure you will find other work that needs to be done with the tractor. Whatever tractor you decide to go with get a heavy duty box blade and make sure you have your tires filled. I can't stress enough to get a heavy well built box blade. You will not regret it. Driveways can be a pain to deal with if you don't have the right size implements to pull it with. A light duty box won't even scratch the surface of a well established driveway. I had two 24 tons of milling put down on my driveway a couple of years ago. My neighbor hauls gravel and brought it over to me. He also brought his 75 HP tractor with a harley rake and ran over my driveway before and after putting down the gravel. The potholes disappeared and he leveled everything out nicely. Cost me $ 650.00. The milling really packed down nicely.

As far as a tractor goes, I am of the opinion as much HP and heavy as you can afford. You might not always need the HP but it will be there when you do. You also need to think about a trailer for hauling your tractor if you plan on moving it. Do you have a truck that will pull a trailer with a tractor on it? Do you have a place to store your tractor? When I bought mine I had no where to store it except outside. I had to put up a metal building to store it. I personally would not leave it outside in the weather. I know it seems like a lot of questions but if you have never owned a tractor these are things you need to think about. Lastly, research as much as possible. Get on as many tractors as you can and operate them.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor
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I have a pole barn that I can store it in and even my garage is available as long as the roll bar folds down. I own a Silverado 2500 HD so I should be able to pull it without much problem, but I don't intend on taking it anywhere either.
I was just out taking my son to a friends house and I happened to be driving past a guy on his tractor grading his private road. I stopped and picked his brain for awhile. He had an older Kubota 31 hp with a hydro transmission. He told me to get a box scraper for the big pot holes and then a landscaping rake to finish it off. His Kubota looked like it should do the job with no problem, but he said that when the ground is hard that it struggles and then he'd wait for some rain to soften it a bit.
Been looking at some of the LS tractors and it seems that for about the same hp and implements on a Kubota, the LS is about 5k cheaper. Never heard of LS until I posted on this forum...are they a good tractor?.....good as Kubota or even Kioti?
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #17  
I personally have never been up close and looked at the LS tractors. It seems like the LS owners on this site like them. I was looking at new tractors last year and test drove Kubota, John Deere, Massey Ferguson and Kioti. I ended up buying a grapple bucket, 6 foot tiller and log splitter instead since my tractor is already paid for. Out of those four I looked at, the Massey seemed the best to me for the money with the Kubota Grand L at a close second. The hydraulics on the Massey's are awesome in my opinion as well as fit and finish. My Dad and Uncle bought a Massey 1643 a couple of years ago and that tractor is really nice. It will be mine one day:thumbs:

Like some members have already stated it boils down to how much money you want/have to spend. If I had plenty of money I would buy the new Kubota M62TLB.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #18  
While you're shopping, you should check out the new Yanmar's too. Good looking tractors with high specs.

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   / Looking to buy my first tractor #19  
SCUTS (sub compact utilty tractors)
CUTS (Compact utilty tractors)
then you get into the large set of tractors that start giving CAT 2 (category 2) 3pt hitch, and/or offering 5,400 RPM to 10,000RPM PTO on rear end of tractor
everything else beyond this, you are getting into huge tractors.

SCUTS = riding lawn mower on steroids.

CUTS = you get more clearance underneath tractor, you get away from riding lawn mower frame work, and you tend to get a heavier tractor, and you tend to get split rear brakes, possibly differential lock, and the engine compartment gets less crowded in sense stuff starts getting big enough, that it is easier to clean out the radiator, possibly have a transmission radiator, and a hydraulic oil cooler (radiator).

get yourself into CUTS, and outside of the SCUTS range. and stay below the CAT 2 3pt hitch 10,000 RPM tractors

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some things that may or may not show up in SCUTS but begin showing up in CUTS
--is shuttle shift (lever by stearing wheel, flip it one way to go forward, flip another and you begin reversing),
--you might also start seeing same speed forward and same speed going in reverse,
--you may start seeing FEL more specialized joysticks / valving to make it quicker to raise /lower the FEL.
--you will more likely see brake pedals on the left foot, and gas / HST pedal on the right foot, so you can actually use both feet at same time to control brakes and gas / hst peddle.

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to state it to state it, stay away from "manual gear transmissions" go with some sort of HST / hydraulic transmission or like transmission. they use up a little more HP. but make life easier overall. from dailing right to wanted MPH you want to be at, to inching forward/backwards, to making going from forward/backwards much quicker. tractor is not driving forward all the time like car/truck. but a lot of backing up, going forwad, backing up going forward, along with turning around and getting yourself unstuck in muddy situations and keeping traction.

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with above said, 12 feet wide 350 feet long. a SCUT more than plenty, though having something nearing CUT ranges, might be better off.

when you bring in the road shared between homes. then ya tend to jump up to a larger tractor. more than you actually need for private usage.

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pot holes, wash boarding (little bumps), ditches, water on the shared road, driving to fast, water not running off of the road, water standing in ditches next to road. not having a good road base, not sloping the road correctly to edges, driving to fast (yet again), and driving to fast (give it one more time) on a dirt road. water on road and not flowing off of it and away from it in ditches (repeat this said multi times) can really do harm to a road.

other words... water = NO NO, driving to fast = a NO NO. when dealing with dirt drives / rock drives.

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if road has curves, ditches, culverts you need to get around, might suggest a TNT (top and tilt) for 3pt hitch, so you can adjust on the fly 3pt hitch. (replaces turn buckle on top link and replaces turn buckle on one of the lower lift arms with a hydraulic cylinder as well). to state it another way, instead of seating and forgetting about it a turn buckle. a TNT lets you adjust rear blade, box blade, land plain / scrapper grader blade while moving along.

you will most likely want "check chains" and sway bar/chains for the 3pt hitch as well.

rear blade, box blade with rippers, landplain / scrapper grader tend to be choices for dealing with rock / dirt roads/driveways. in order to maintain them. and tend to be a mix and match not just one, but 2 of them so you can get most things covered.

with you needing to deal with snow a FEL (front end loader) with general duty bucket most likely wanted, to deal with deeper snow drifts, and just plain moving dirt around between areas. without dragging dirt / snow around with a rear blade or box blade. rear blade is also good for snow removal. some folks go up to a snow blower. and some folks go up to a plow mounted to a regular pickup truck for dealing with snow.

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a cab may be worth it to you. just to get out of the bloody wind in winter. from an actual manufactured cab, to a soft cab, to diy cab. just getting the wind off you in winter makes a huge difference, even if you do not have heat, and/or a/c in the summer. if you are actually going to deal with shared road, a cab, can keep you from eating and breathing a few pounds of dust in summer.

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to toss it out there, you mentioned a larger truck. they do sell some "trailers" with an angled blade below it, along with a water tank on the trailer. and you just pull it like you would with a regular trailer, but with a remote control that goes up into front of truck. the blade can help deal with the road, and using the water tank to spray the road down to help keep the dust storm from happening.
 
   / Looking to buy my first tractor #20  
5,400 & 10,000 RPM? Must be those new Formula 1 tractors! Sorry I had to poke fun at the extra extra 0. Note that some Cuts had 540 and 1000 RPM PTO's
 

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