JoeBuyer
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Ford Powermaster looks like sweet tractor. Never noticed this tractor before. Very nice specs and size.
Buying Advice Looking to buy older...but what tractor?
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Soundguy
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i like the rowcrop powermasters. like a nice 961 sweet machine.. 
BobG_in_VA
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I notice folks seem to want to steer you away from a gasser, toward a diesel..I've got both...if you are gonna do serious utility tractor work on a 8-10 straight basis (ie. farm for a living) I'd also say go diesel..BUT...if you are using it to only bush hog a couple of hours at a time and "cut the grass" with a finish mower, you can't go wrong with a good gas tractor..I've got a Massey 135 Deluxe with the Z145 Cont. gas engine..for most everything I do now, its easy to start (never more than 1 turnover) easy to maintain...(no injectors/pumps to go Kaput...) Two stage clutch, (not truely independant, but works works well for bushhogging), parts can be had ANYWHERE... good gas 135s in my area go for $3700 to close to $5k...sooo...if you aren't an ASE cert. mechanic, don't overlook a gas unit..BobG in VA
Birdhunter1
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I'll agree with the gas engine thought, those old gas engines were some tough durable machines. Allis Chalmers D series, Massey Ferguson, John Deere, Oliver, Ford and International all put out good engines.
An old tractor nut I know said back then the diesel engines were good, however it was a technology still being developed in many ways and the gas engines were proven.
An old tractor nut I know said back then the diesel engines were good, however it was a technology still being developed in many ways and the gas engines were proven.
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i would buy used tractor individually. and then buy bush hog and blade separately. granted if they are selling them as a package or possibly from same person that is all good and fine. but it is fairly easy to find used bush hogs and rear blades easily on craigslist.
as far as buying used. i could really care less about brands, or model. but actually going out and physically looking at them, and test driving them. and checking hydraulics, and for leaks, and upkeep on them. a good clean tractor does not always mean it is a good running tractor. and a rust bucket of a tractor that has grease and mud all over the place, may be the best tractor out of the bunch. start the tractor up, test drive it, let it run for 30 minutes or so, so thermostate for radiator opens up. and engine warms up good. (may need to be in med to high idle for engine and things to warm up good) raise hyd 3pt hitch, and if FEL (front end loader on it raise it as well) shut off tractor and let it set there for 30 minutes or so and see if things lower.
test each gear of the transmission forward and backwards. check the fluid levels, (hyd, engine oil, antifreeze/water, secondary or third hyd oil location perhaps rear end, perhaps transmission perhaps up on front of tractor)
gas tractors are good diesel tractors are good. though if you plan on not running tractor and letting it set 6 months of the year. you may want to think about adding some sort of additive to the fuel. more so gas. so the gas does not go bad. or diesel does not gel up in winter.
you might try tractorhouse www.tractorhouse.com lets ya search via zip code, distant, cost, and variety of other features.
hint: bush hog is an actual brand, what you are wanting is a rotatory cutter.
as far as buying used. i could really care less about brands, or model. but actually going out and physically looking at them, and test driving them. and checking hydraulics, and for leaks, and upkeep on them. a good clean tractor does not always mean it is a good running tractor. and a rust bucket of a tractor that has grease and mud all over the place, may be the best tractor out of the bunch. start the tractor up, test drive it, let it run for 30 minutes or so, so thermostate for radiator opens up. and engine warms up good. (may need to be in med to high idle for engine and things to warm up good) raise hyd 3pt hitch, and if FEL (front end loader on it raise it as well) shut off tractor and let it set there for 30 minutes or so and see if things lower.
test each gear of the transmission forward and backwards. check the fluid levels, (hyd, engine oil, antifreeze/water, secondary or third hyd oil location perhaps rear end, perhaps transmission perhaps up on front of tractor)
gas tractors are good diesel tractors are good. though if you plan on not running tractor and letting it set 6 months of the year. you may want to think about adding some sort of additive to the fuel. more so gas. so the gas does not go bad. or diesel does not gel up in winter.
you might try tractorhouse www.tractorhouse.com lets ya search via zip code, distant, cost, and variety of other features.
hint: bush hog is an actual brand, what you are wanting is a rotatory cutter.
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boggen,
Well said.
Well said.
Mark Page
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They are easy to work on, parts are readily available, plenty of hp for a 6ft bush hog and is easy on fuel. On the advice of 2 farmers I bought one. It was my first tractor and never let me down. I put a little money in it, used it for 6 years and 700 hrs and sold it at a profit. IMHO anything less than 30hp will be insufficient for your needs.
A diesel tractor is nice but as has already been mentioned they are more difficult to work on or to pay to have repaired.
Whatever you buy, especially in an older machine, be sure it has power steering.
They are easy to work on, parts are readily available, plenty of hp for a 6ft bush hog and is easy on fuel. On the advice of 2 farmers I bought one. It was my first tractor and never let me down. I put a little money in it, used it for 6 years and 700 hrs and sold it at a profit. IMHO anything less than 30hp will be insufficient for your needs.
A diesel tractor is nice but as has already been mentioned they are more difficult to work on or to pay to have repaired.
Whatever you buy, especially in an older machine, be sure it has power steering.
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Soundguy
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you should care!
some brands/models have much much MUCH better parts support, and cheaper parts too.
always better to find a model that was in production many years with many # of units produced.. theose hav ethe best parts support.. and have the best chance to find salvge parts..
Soundguy
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just make sure it has good steering.. or make it good.
power steering is nice.. but not needed. if you do lots of loader work.. it's especially nice..
i have some ps loader machines.. and non ps loader machines. both lift and drive.
i have some power steering non loader machines and some non ps non loader machines.
lately, the tractor i've been mowing with all this year is a non power steering 1955 ( mostly.. though was built as a mutt from about 8 other tractors ) ford 950 rowcrop.
no power steering.. turns nice and easy with a serviced steering box and pedistal.
on ford.. if 53-64 i prefer gas, though diesel is ok.. especially if the 172.. on 65+ i prefer diesel, just to stay away from the holley carbs.. though a good working gasser is also fine at least in the 2000/3000 series.. once you hit the 201ci 4xxx + machines.. theystart getting hungry if a gasser..
soundguy
Worked 50 hrs over the weekend, so I was not checking in all that much. Thank you all for the advice. I got me a 1961 801 Ford Powermaster yesterday. Took my neighbor with me who is very experienced with tractors. We spent about an hour talking with the owner and checking it out and driving it, etc. I ended up getting it for 2850 including the brush hog & blade. I brush hogged some yesterday and a bunch today. Ran like a top.
Just wanting to know if anyone knows of any "weak links" on these machines? Overheating issues, transmission issues, engine issues...etc. Anything to kind of keep an eye on? Dang, she sure is a beauty to look at and fires right up. 44hp, 4speed + reverse. Hydraulics are good. Sure seems like a tough SOB!
I thank you all again and hope to hear some more input.
Regards,
Ben
Just wanting to know if anyone knows of any "weak links" on these machines? Overheating issues, transmission issues, engine issues...etc. Anything to kind of keep an eye on? Dang, she sure is a beauty to look at and fires right up. 44hp, 4speed + reverse. Hydraulics are good. Sure seems like a tough SOB!
I thank you all again and hope to hear some more input.
Regards,
Ben
