Loose joystick - HELP !

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KiotiKevin

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Kioti NX4510
Hi Folks,
Been a while since I posted. I am an avid reader of the site tho.
I have a problem with the joystick ! By the way I always enter & exit on the left. When I push it down to float the bucket the stick keeps turning like it is going to come off.
I have read where the plastic ball inside wears from wiggling the bucket of which I do all the time to shake any snow or dirt.
Is it worn ?
Can I tighten it ?
Will I need a new kit and does anyone have any pics of the installation if I do ?
and last question what is that flat lever that comes out from the bottom of the boot ?
Thanks, hope someone can help me - we are in the middle of a snow storm. What a time for that to go !!!

kiotikevin
 
   / Loose joystick - HELP ! #2  
KiotiKevin said:
Hi Folks,
Been a while since I posted. I am an avid reader of the site tho.
I have a problem with the joystick ! By the way I always enter & exit on the left. When I push it down to float the bucket the stick keeps turning like it is going to come off.
I have read where the plastic ball inside wears from wiggling the bucket of which I do all the time to shake any snow or dirt.
Is it worn ?
Can I tighten it ?
Will I need a new kit and does anyone have any pics of the installation if I do ?
and last question what is that flat lever that comes out from the bottom of the boot ?
Thanks, hope someone can help me - we are in the middle of a snow storm. What a time for that to go !!!
kiotikevin
Its a jam nut on Joystick has work loose, need to tighten nut under boot.
not real easy to get to.If that not loose you will need ball kit
 
   / Loose joystick - HELP ! #3  
The little brass colored flat tab under the boot is the joystick lock. Let the joystick rest in the neutral position and then slide the tab towards the stick to lock the stick in place. Not really usefull since I wouldn't depend on it as a safety lock or anything.
 
   / Loose joystick - HELP ! #4  
If its not a loose jam nut, or the balls haven't broken off, you might have lost the hex head bolt that holds the joystick pivot assembly in place. I had that happen on my ck30. I could still use the joystick somewhat, but had to really hold it in place. If I let go of the joystick, it just kind of flopped over to the front right.

Getting to the jam nut, ball assembly isn't hard, just inconvenient (at least on the ck30). You have to take the seat off, take off the 3pt control, the pull off the the sheet metal the surrounds the boot, then get the boot off and take a look. Its all bolts and cotter pins (for the 3pt), so its not too bad. If one of the posts that is hooked to the joystick floats up and down real easy (back left, looking down from the seated position), you lost that bolt. You can replace it without disassembly of the joystick.

You might be able to tighten up the jam nut without taking anything off, but I found it to be kind of hard on the rubber boot.
 
   / Loose joystick - HELP ! #5  
Hey Kevin,

As tractorhill said...tightening the nut under the rubber boot is a two second fix. It's removing some of the surrounding items to gain easy access to the inside of the boot that turns this into somewhat of a project. Trying spinning the handle around until it tightens...then when time permits remove some of the surrounding items...then there's two bolts to release the joy stick from the frame of the tractor....from there you can reposition the handle where you like it and tighten the bolt.

Edit: what pheesh said....:)

Don
 
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Hey guys,
Thanks for responding, I will give it a try in the am. As you say, I guess I'll have to take the seat off to get at it. I'm off all day and it's going to be blowing snow for the most part , I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the help.

Kevin
 
   / Loose joystick - HELP ! #7  
Mine came loose on my CK20. I disassembled the boot area and tightened the nuts. Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks Gerard. I will give it a try. I was going to take it apart this morning but it is still snowing out there and I am still able to use it so I will wait until the snow clearing is done just in case I mess it up. Does anyone have any pics ?

Kevin
 
   / Loose joystick - HELP ! #9  
Same jam nut came loose several times on my NH TC48, I finally completely remove the threaded control lever, cleaned everything with carb cleaner, and then reassembled with "blue" locktite. Problem cured. I had tighten the jam nut several times, but it kept working loose. Now it's fixed, and can be removed if necessary. The block it screws into is aluminum, wish it had been a low grade of stainless steel, say a 304 alloy. May have added $2 to the cost of the tractor. All these manufactures look for cost cutting measures.
 
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KiotiKevin said:
Thanks Gerard. I will give it a try. I was going to take it apart this morning but it is still snowing out there and I am still able to use it so I will wait until the snow clearing is done just in case I mess it up. Does anyone have any pics ?

Kevin
If you can still use it its most likley jam nut. Quick fix take finger and squezz boot and hand tighten jam nut, have lever 180%,1/2 turn off, facing back, with jam hand tight turn joy clockwise and you might be lucky and tighten that away. might save time
 

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