Loose wheel bolts

[lman]

Per JD manual does not recommend loc-tite

Was that right next to where it said to routinely check the torque of the wheel bolts?

 

[DanMc77]

It’s not hard to walk around the machine and take a quick glance at the lugs. They don’t just spin out instantly. Ive never had one come loose.

 

[5030]

I check mine for prevailing torque with my torque wrench every time I do an oil change. Same applies with vehicle lug bolts but with the, when I mount or dismount a rim, I'll torque to the specified value, drive the vehicle around the block and recheck the torque value. Only takes a minute. Only takes a couple minutes on a tractor.

 

[5030]

Was that right next to where it said to routinely check the torque of the wheel bolts?

I don't believe ANY tractor maker recommends using thread locker on wheel nuts actually. I know Kubota don't.

 

[beenthere]

Per JD manual does not recommend loc-tite

Post up more information how this wheel related accident and your injuries happened. A pic or two may help too.

 

[Sportsman762]

A loose wheel bolt is normally a result of error. Loosing a whole wheel is the same situation. I am pretty sure the manual says to check for loose bolts and periodically retighten. I have not heard of loose lug bolts occurring more on any JD compared to other brands. I had a wheel fall off my Massey due to me replacing a new hub and then using it for 8 hours without checking bolt tightness, it was my error. When I worked grounds keeping we had a wheel fall off of a New Holland but the operator did not check lug tightness first. MRBuckmaster is looking for a lawsuit as a result of his negligence. Page 109 of OMLVU28128 covers this.

To provide some constructive feedback: They make loose wheel nut indicators that are used on big trucks that would make seeing if a bolt is loose easy. This makes the operators job of doing an equipment precheck simpler.

https://www.amazon.com/Wheel-Check-Green-Loose-Wheel-Indicators/dp/B07R49RGGX

 

[Deere Dude]

I got complacent and never checked my lugnuts on my JD3720. At less than 50 hours I noticed a loose rear wheel. I needed to replace all the. lugnuts on that wheel and retap the holes. Not s problem as it was my fault for not checking.

Then I decided to add spacers on the rears. I locktited all spacer bolts and lugbolts at that time. In over 1150 hours since then I haven't needed to retorque anything and all bolts are in same position. I still glance down at them every now and then to be safe.

Wether JD advises to or not use Locktite, it still works great. All it means is Locktite was not tested by the factory.

 

[beenthere]

It is a design problem.

Not very likely.

It is a user problem.

John Deere Maintenance Monday: Torquing the Wheel Lugs

Tightening wheel lugs is part of good tractor tire maintenance.

www.agriculture.com

 

[Sportsman762]

Why doesn’t John Deer own up to a design problem.normally tractor has threaded studs and then wheel lugs are used.

John Deere uses lug bolts on all their compact MFWD tractors front axles, as you get larger its a mixed bag. For example the 8R370 uses lug bolts, but the 5090E uses lug nuts, not sure of JD's logic behind the randomness.
Kubota uses lug bolts on all their compact tractors, but studs on their MFWD utility and rowcrop tractors. I should check the lugnuts on my vehicles more often.

With a tractor I would also check the bolts between the engine and the transmission. Very bad things happen if these come loose.

 

[beenthere]

I had a JD 2025 for 5 years prior to buying the new tractor in 2021. And no problems and had 800 hours on it. Why doesn’t John Deer own up to a design problem.normally tractor has threaded studs and then wheel lugs are used. Well Consumer Products are Investigating their defective design. Horseshit to have to constantly retorque wheel bolts. Do y’all retorque the lug nuts on your cars and trucks every 5 hrs, 10 hrs , 50 hrs and 200 hrs. Really.

Think MrBuckmaster is SOL on this one. His lack of attention is the only problem here, and trying to blame someone else likely will not work.

Whether a stud or a lug nut, they should be checked and re-torqued at least once after installation. Standard procedure and no, doesn't have to be repeated and repeated.
Grasping at straws will not help the situation, and making up stories will not help either.
John Deere stud or lug nut design isn't any different from any other stud or lug nut used around the world, IMO.