Loosing the Split Rim Dayton Wheels

[JESSE1]

Here's a comparison between a Dayton wheel and a Budd wheel. The truck on the left is a '56 White WC22PLT with 10Rx22.5 tubeless tires mounted on Dayton wheels. It originally had 10.00x20 bias ply tires mounted on tube type Dayton wheels with a locking ring. The truck on the right is a '59 White 4400TD that has 11R24.5 tubeless tires mounted on Budd wheels. It originally had 10.00x22 bias ply tires mounted on tube type Budd wheels. I changed out both trucks to tubeless tires because good quality bias ply tires aren't available anymore.

 

[cowski]

put the better tires on the out side of each side and the michlens on the inside.

 

[ultrarunner]

We run similar wheels on Model T Fords and tire availability has not been a problem...

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I will compare them side by side to see if the drives are all of equal height but my thinking is cut the PSI in the G's from 115 to 95(F load rating) and just run all at 95 as if they were F rated. I with put the Goodyear (G's) on the right and the weaker Michelin's on the left (high side of the road).

JESSE1 those are some awesome looking trucks. Thanks for posting the photos. I will be glad to loose the bias bounce on each trip out. :laughing:

 

[QRTRHRS]

Just wondering about the dates on those tires? I had a 22.5 low pro capped awhile back. The folks at the tire business I frequent told me that by federal law nothing over five years old can be capped now. But anyway, that would not stop me from running them.

My preference is to run the more worn tires on the inside when running on alot of crowned roads. With equal tire pressure, both tires would be more equally loaded where as a larger inside tire is going to get more load and wear more.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

OK used the pressure washer on the wheels and tires and got them to looking better then when to the car wash thinking that would be stronger but it was not but thankfully I took my jug of AWESOME and found an old rag in the PU and got off grease/brake dust off the front wheels. The pressure washer blew some bad black paint off of one set and I sanded it off the outside wheel on the other set.

Found a short screw and a broken chain link in one of them. The chain link had been in there for a while it took a while to work it out with a screw driver.

I am now ready to go to town and get them mounted but I will wait for daylight. :thumbsup:

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Today I got the radial rims/tires installed and glad to have that behind me. The bias tires after they got warmed up were smooth at ever 70 but not these new tires.

Well the truck is home and parked and I made a local truck/tractor tire dealer an offer on the bias rims/tires that he could not pass up so they are gone.

Some day when it is cooler I will jack up the truck and see if the rims and the tires are in round.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

No longer got the shakes. :thumbsup:

My son helped me true up the steer Dayton rims today by removing the lateral run-out.

We used a split piece of fire wood to server as a redneck dial (eyeball) indicator. :laughing:

Had to pick up my son from a week of Boy Scouts camp this morning in the Lowes parking lot so I picked up a cheater bar. The double wall conduit was wanting to bend on me.

1" galvanized pipe was a perfect fit out the 3/4" pull hanle. They had a 5' piece threaded on each end for $17 but I what thinking 4' then I saw a 10'j for $19 and they cut it to give me a 4' and 6' pipe so for $2 we got a 6' stick too. :thumbsup:

A 12 mile test drive (empty) indicated we were back to running as smooth before. We used the 7000 red click jack from TSC ($40?) in the front bumper step holes which maxed out it limits for the most part. Some day we will go under the rear with the 20 ton jack and check out the lateral run there but the steering wheel shake is gone now.

 

[ModMech]

An F-700 will have a GVW of around 26k - 28k as I recall, that is generally 9k or 10k on the steer and 16k - 18k on the drive.

Even at 85 psi, you have more tire than spring and at 95 psi more tire than you'd need even modestly over loaded.

We were a 100% Michelin fleet and I spent as much as $10k/month on tires, that was almost 15 years ago now and a LOT of tires. Never had a failure with a Michelin, even a cap. When we moved from 10R22.5 to 11R22.5 we also stopped using caps because in our (bus) operation, it actually COST MORE to cap than to buy virgin tires and trade them in at the time.

Good idea on ditching the split rims! Magically, every split-rim we dismounted had a small crack in it ... somewhere and was replaced with a tubelss rim/tire.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

ModMech I am so happy to now have the one piece radial Dayton rims especially since they came with new Kumho KRS02 10 R22.5 steers and and good looking recapped drives with full tread. While they are not mud grips they are fine for me because I have little need to pay in the mud anymore.

I think GVW on our old 1989 F700 may be 23.001 pounds because I remember that was good for insurance, etc. While the old truck can still work some it should be all we until I am 90. The twin 3-stage hoist on it was a main attraction for me. :thumbsup:

After I got the one piece wheels mounted the shop across the street from my office put them in the bed so I would not have to come back with the trailer and pick them up. The drives were new 10.00 x 20's complete with new liners and tubes that I gave $450 for mounted in Cleveland TN before I make the 300 mile trip home in it. the drives were old 9.00 x 20's. I was hoping to get $200 out of all 6 but the demand is next to zero so while I had them on the truck (not wanting to touch them again) I went by the only big tire shop in town. The owner was on a tractor service call but when he got in he was not very interested but I kept talking so finally he got up in the truck (had my stool ready for him :laughing and looked at them. I could see he saw what I told him about them was true and knew there was aways old farm trucks/trailers needed a cheap out so I asked if he would give me $100. He said for all six and I said yes. He called a guy over and told him to roll them out of the way when he flipped them of the 4' bed then got down and gave me a $100 bill.

He will be able to sell them for $500 in time and my physical limitations are so that I would have given them to him because I can not get one up off the ground.