loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016

   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016
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#11  
I had a light boxblade on the back and the rear tires are filled.

I'll trailer the tractor up this afternoon and drop off at the shop in the morning. It's been sitting in the yard for about a week now.

-Luke
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #12  
As others have mentioned, the rear axles and rear differential are made to do most of the work moving the tractor, and the front end is for assist. If you look at the rear axle shaft it is several times the size of the front axle shaft, and that is the norm for all compact tractors. Everything works great until you get the front bucket really loaded up heavy and dump the clutch fast with the rear tires nearly in the air...and you ask more of the front axle then it was designed to do. We have seen this on several brands, and typically if the customer is honest with us he'll tell us that he was buried into a pile of cobble and had the rear tires in the air and he dumped the clutch to try to push the bucket even further in the pile and snap. Not as common with an HST as it is gentler.

We have sold hundreds of 15 and 16 series Mahindras and have seen this once, and a couple of times with the old 4110 series.

Since you had loaded tires and a box blade, I'd surely want to look for a defect in the front axle, I'd lean more that way then blaming the operator. Your rear tires should have still been planted. Are you using the factory bucket?
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016
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Dave - yes.. factory bucket.
Loader is the ML115 if I recall correctly.
I don't think that I dumped the clutch on it as I typically use the foot pedals for clutch and throttle.

I don't think it was light in the rear at all.. the sand was so dry then it really didn't have much compaction either. This was loose spoils I was moving.

I still haven't had a chance to load it up yet and take it in.
 
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   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #14  
Dave - yes.. factory bucket.
Loader is the ML115 if I recall correctly.
I don't think that I dumped the clutch on it as I typically use the foot pedals for clutch and throttle.

I don't think it was light in the rear at all.. the sand was so dry then it really didn't have much compaction either. This was loose spoils I was moving.

I still haven't had a chance to load it up yet and take it in.

Sounds to me like we don't have an operator or application error. Mahindra and your dealer will treat you right.
 
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Dropped the tractor off Wednesday evening. With the front diff disengaged the front end still had a loud clatter when I cut the wheels to load it on the trailer.

I did learn something I hadn't thought of in a while.. just because you've got a hitch and 7-way plug.. don't count on there being trailer brakes. I was in my wife's Expedition and it had never towed before. I slid a hitch in the receiver then backed up to the trailer. Plugged everything in and "went to town."

Got to the end of the driveway and went to slow down so I could look for traffic.. the trailer and tractor were still heading toward the road. The Exped's front end was stopping at the mailbox. I went ahead and finished the trip in her car vs going back to the house and getting my truck because I figured I'd just drive it slow and count on no braking in the back. I'll go fetch it with the truck when I get the call that it's ready to go again.

-Luke
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #16  
Dropped the tractor off Wednesday evening. With the front diff disengaged the front end still had a loud clatter when I cut the wheels to load it on the trailer.

I did learn something I hadn't thought of in a while.. just because you've got a hitch and 7-way plug.. don't count on there being trailer brakes. I was in my wife's Expedition and it had never towed before. I slid a hitch in the receiver then backed up to the trailer. Plugged everything in and "went to town."

Got to the end of the driveway and went to slow down so I could look for traffic.. the trailer and tractor were still heading toward the road. The Exped's front end was stopping at the mailbox. I went ahead and finished the trip in her car vs going back to the house and getting my truck because I figured I'd just drive it slow and count on no braking in the back. I'll go fetch it with the truck when I get the call that it's ready to go again.

-Luke

Does the vehicle even have a brake controller installed ??? Sure hope your truck does when you go to pick it up !!
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #17  
Dropped the tractor off Wednesday evening. With the front diff disengaged the front end still had a loud clatter when I cut the wheels to load it on the trailer.

I did learn something I hadn't thought of in a while.. just because you've got a hitch and 7-way plug.. don't count on there being trailer brakes. I was in my wife's Expedition and it had never towed before. I slid a hitch in the receiver then backed up to the trailer. Plugged everything in and "went to town."

Got to the end of the driveway and went to slow down so I could look for traffic.. the trailer and tractor were still heading toward the road. The Exped's front end was stopping at the mailbox. I went ahead and finished the trip in her car vs going back to the house and getting my truck because I figured I'd just drive it slow and count on no braking in the back. I'll go fetch it with the truck when I get the call that it's ready to go again.

-Luke

Well there you go, you know what to get your wife for Christmas. "Honey, I got you a new brake controller for your car". Tell me how that works...
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #18  
If your front wheels were unable to spin when you shoved the bucket into the sand pile and pushed hard to load the bucket with a big scoop, then that's when the damage was done. That's why you shouldn't operate in 4WD when scooping stuff with the FEL while the wheels are on a concrete surface or any surface that prevents the front wheels from spinning because of too much traction on the front wheels. The front wheels have to be able to break traction when the forward motion stops in filling the bucket. That's the first thing the sales guy told me when I was testing my first tractor with an FEL--a new 2005 Kubota B7510HST that had 4WD.


I would have told the salesman "No thank you then, I am going buy a tractor that doesn't destroy itself under its own power."
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #19  
And what tractor would that be...,?
 
   / loud clacking in the front end... shuttle 3016 #20  
And what tractor would that be...,?

Mine..... So far. I don't abuse it, but I use it as a tool, not a toy that I have to ***** foot around in and wonder if something is going to break the first time I pick up something over 20lbs or if one wheel suddenly gets traction. Honestly, if my salesman had told me that I woulda turned and walked away.
 

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