Lucky to be ALIVE!!!

[DarkBlack]

You don't have to be sure about the wrench shorting, the OP said it did; and how else would the starter be engaged, other than the solenoid being activated?
The OP said it bothers him to keep rehashing the details, so let's stop this unnecessary rewinding, OK people?

Spare me your convenient self-righteousness. I read the whole thread, including your earlier insensitive remarks.
I'm trying to figure out if there is a safety flaw in the tractor starter design, so that someone else may be alerted, and not face the same danger.
My remarks on starters being positive switched was meant for you. If you have some knowledge that these starters engage by shorting to ground, then please offer it up so we can all learn from you.

 

[Coyote machine]

Spare me your convenient self-righteousness. I read the whole thread, including your earlier insensitive remarks.
I'm trying to figure out if there is a safety flaw in the tractor starter design, so that someone else may be alerted, and not face the same danger.
My remarks on starters being positive switched was meant for you. If you have some knowledge that these starters engage by shorting to ground, then please offer it up so we can all learn from you.

Don't bother trying to engage me in your wild goose chase. There is no self righteousness coming from me. I'm glad you managed to read the entire thread, including my accurate remarks, which just because they're true doesn't make them insensitive. This has already been covered long ago; you're the one keeping the OP in rehash what happened mode. Starters have hot present at the solenoid, which when grounded by a wrench, or other means, will engage the starter Bendix resulting in the starter doing it's intended job: starting the engine by cranking over the flywheel...
This is an isolated incident, not a tractor wide flaw in design. ANY starter solenoid given a ground will start an engine, thats why the bolt on the solenoid is usually covered by a rubber boot to prevent what happened to the OP.
There is nothing more I can say to prove what took place; and you can make whatever remarks you want directed at me; it won't change a thing.

 

[DarkBlack]

Don't bother trying to engage me in your wild goose chase. There is no self righteousness coming from me. I'm glad you managed to read the entire thread, including my accurate remarks, which just because they're true doesn't make them insensitive. This has already been covered long ago; you're the one keeping the OP in rehash what happened mode. Starters have hot present at the solenoid, which when grounded by a wrench, or other means, will engage the starter Bendix resulting in the starter doing it's intended job: starting the engine by cranking over the flywheel...
This is an isolated incident, not a tractor wide flaw in design. ANY starter solenoid given a ground will start an engine, thats why the bolt on the solenoid is usually covered by a rubber boot to prevent what happened to the OP.

There is nothing more I can say to prove what took place; and you can make whatever remarks you want directed at me; it won't change a thing.

Now I totally understand why you are on so many people's ignore list.

 

[Coyote machine]

Thanks CM. It may infact shorted to positive. Either way it shorted and engaged.

No problem. I'm just trying to shut down the endless/pointless speculation rehashing of the cause/result of this unfortunate situation. Glad to hear you're healing. Day at a time....

 

[Garycw]

Guys please, it's not worth arguing about. I just know the large stud on the soleniod shorted to something and engauged it. The moment it did, my foot was pinned and wrench fell to the floor of the barn. It stayed latched in somehow. That's a fact. It also ( soleniod ) stayed latched in after in neutral but not the starter.
Reading everyone's support, well wishes and advice is a great confort. Arguing is not. I look forward to reading the posts in this thread. I'm feeling helpless and ready to climb the walls with boredom. I'm counting the hours till I can go back to doctor at the uk hospital 80 miles away on the 21st, just to get out of the house. It's rained here the last 4-5 days and cold.

 

[Coyote machine]

Now I totally understand why you are on so many people's ignore list.

Why don't you put me on your ignore list. You have absolutely no idea who or how many put me on an ignore list; and even if you did it means nothing to me. I will not engage in pointless argument with you.
Listen to what the OP asks for; this is not your thread it's his. Duh!

 

[TomSeller]

Now I totally understand why you are on so many people's ignore list.

CM is not on my ignore list as he has very valuable and extensive knowledge. He calls a spade a spade, it is just the way he communicates. If Garycw thanked him, he can't be that insensitive.

 

[coobie]

Now I totally understand why you are on so many people's ignore list.

Have to tell ya CM is NOT on my ignore list,in fact he was VERY INSTRUMENTAL in helping me when I had a issue with my new Kioti tractor.Thanks again CM.

 

[Coyote machine]

No, No! Please ignore me.:laughing:
Thanks Tom, and Coobie for the support! You guys are smart and Tom is not real insensitive either.:shocked: ( But you do have to say where you're from, still!
Have a good one guys.


CM out

 

[bumpyrider]

Gary, guess I missed it on the threads (or it just didn't soak into my head). You back home? Glad to hear it, just can't get a decent prime rib in those places...