Made in China

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

I know Mahindra has sent the Chinese plant back to the drawing board many times in the past 2 years before they have brought it out in the US market. I don't expect it to be every thing the 15 series is but it isn't priced with the 15 series either. I do expect the tractor to be a step up on the Chinese tractor competition. The area I am from isn't the most affluent area and I know there are some of the Chinese tractors being sold in my area, and I wouldn't mind taking a bit from Northern Hyd.

 

[Sergei]

Now I know what China is going to do with all the lead paint they have left over from the toy market!

 

[shvl73]

From the pictures, it's a step up from the Jinmas, Fotons and the later generation Lenars I've seen.

 

[magyarbacsi]

A rose is a rose by any other name. Lenar, Kama, etc. and now Mahindra? Can you say JINMA. When I was contemplating buying a Jinma 254, that happens to use the same motor, 385, as the Lenar/Mahindra, I went back to the beginning of the threads, 2002 re china made tractors and read most of them and down loaded enought photos of the problems and fixes to assemble a shop manual. And while each year improvements have been made, they still have enough "little" problems to keep a tinkerer happy and a farmer speak french words. As they claim, if you are handy with tools, Jinma is for you. Common problems with them range from ignition switches, wiring and electrical components to snapped front axles of the 4wd units when using the FEL to its max capacity. Still, they seem to sell like hot cakes. Do hot cakes really sell that well?

Mahindra bought Lenar, Jingaling factory, couldn't resist, it's actually Jiangling, in 2004. Mahindra must have been holding back till now. Who knows, with Mahindra's quality control and a cheap tractor brand...?
I still think Chinese metalurgy is not up to par. Most Chinese tractor come with one year warranty, parts only. So with the New Chinese/Mahindra, you get two yrs, but does that include parts and labor?

 

[DavesTractor]

Mahindra bought Lenar, Jingaling factory, couldn't resist, it's actually Jiangling, in 2004. Mahindra must have been holding back till now. Who knows, with Mahindra's quality control and a cheap tractor brand...?
I still think Chinese metalurgy is not up to par. Most Chinese tractor come with one year warranty, parts only. So with the New Chinese/Mahindra, you get two yrs, but does that include parts and labor?

Yes, parts and labor on the warranty. Some have commented on the castings. They are much better than they were even 18 months ago. They look very good. Mahindra has the resources and know-how regarding castings. Keep in mind that these aren't rebadged Jinma's, they spent several years re-working this plant. Then they changed most everything about the Lenar. Some are big changes, some are minor, but this is a different animal than the Lenar, despite the similarities. (By the way, no offense meant to Jinma, they obviously have a place and many people are happy with them.)

I think they have a good economy model in the ES25 (which I think is now the 2525). I've put quite a bit of time on a pre-production unit with only a few minor issues. All of the issues were reported and changes were made, so we shouldn't see them again. My test unit is actually about three generations back in the test cycle. I've also driven the newest model, and many of you will be surprised. Will they be perfect? No, but probably the best bang for the buck for a simple heavy duty 4x4 loader tractor.

 

[GIJOE]

Maybe they will put the new Chinese built 400 series Perkins engine in them.

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[michellesc7]

Thanks Joel for the Post and thanks Brandi for the information.
I cannot resist to post. The tractor loader looks like a similar loader to that used on the Montana 40 series smaller tractors. I looked at those, but did not like all of the bolts - notice at the loader mounting and at the front of the tractor. These can be stress points digging northern white or southern red clay or doing anything other than light duty work. I bought the mahindra (have two of them) for robustness and weight to do real work. Secondly, on a more postive note, I looked at Bills financing rate and assuming 5 year or 6 year, it looks like you can buy a 4 wd 25 hp tractor with loader of fair quality for around $11 K plus or minusl. So that brings me to the subject of money and personal risk management. If I need a good quality smaller tractor and I had only a few acres of maintenance work, I'd go for it. The reporting of problems and networking is what this website is to be used for.

My thoughts are if you have days and weeks to do work and nobody's schedule but your own (guys be careful with this one - the wife may want faster progress), buy a small tractor. If you have hours or serious projects buy at least a 45 hp tractor and get some serious work done.

Michelle

 

[jmacshriver]

Go on the Tractordata.com website, and do a search on "Lenar" tractors. It gives a little history on the relationship between Mahindra and Lenar. (I only looked it up because of your post!) China-made Mahindras... ... a scary thought.

Lenar and Agtrac tractors are built by DFAM. I own a LE304 and it runs great. No, it is not fancy but if all your doing is mowing, tilling and spraying, then why not spend less to buy more toys.

 

[GLLinMO]

My across the board personal opinion / experience is that Chinese- made products from comanies NOT based in China often have a high level of quality. They are made to non-Chinese/Western production specs. However, Chinese products marketed thru importers can be very varied in quality and are not considered equal to Western - branded products.

Remember the connotation of "made in Japan" 40 years ago?

As they say - it's a global economy, not just for the U.S, but for everyone.

 

[Maka]

OK, look at these pictures. Taesung loaders are or backhoes are used by TYM, Montana, Mahindra, Kioti and Look at that other orange machine. I found it interesting that Kubota has their tractors at the Korean loader manufacturer.

I got these pictures in Oct. 07 so about 3 months ago. While there I was talking to a dealer of Mahindra who also sells TYM. We looked at the Chinese Mahindra pictured here and it is no different than any other Chinese and it is supposed to be the current model Chinese Mahindra.

I think if Mahindra does much with these they will hurt themselves. I am a Mahindra fan but if this is what they are putting out there it will probably be short lived in the U.S., be expensive and most likely upset some consumers who get these.

Enjoy the pictures.

Maka