made in usa ?

   / made in usa ? #11  
Manufacturing is an industry for middle economies. Cheap labor. Little manufacturing for common items is conducted in the more advanced nations. Why? The cost of labor.

Many "parts" are produced and sold locally. There are any number of components makers who are "local" and convenient. How many things are made in Japan today? Twenty-five years ago everyone was running around with their hands in the air about all the things made in Japan. ****, today, I would love to find something made in Japan. It's tough today to find things made in Mexico anymore.

There are people paid to do the most base of the operations, mate Part A with Part B, all over the world, yet the bigger jobs of transporting that product to market, making it ready to sell, selling it, and then supporting it are.................diametrically more important.

Sales and support generate far more than production in the big picture. It's the way things go in businesss.....
Cheap labor is only a perk for companies that outsource to other countries. These factories don't have OSHA, EPA, Workers comp, NAACP, Labor Unions, and multitudes of tax levies. A line worker in an overseas factory can lose an arm or eyeball and they'll carry him out the door, wish him well, and speed the line up so production don't drop. It's impossible for an American co. to compete with them.
 
   / made in usa ? #12  
NO, thats not it....
the stickers are made in the USA

thats all it means :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
 
   / made in usa ? #13  
Why not get hung up on it?

If the parts were actually manufactured here, there would be jobs in engineering, production, sales, distribution, supply chain, etc etc etc AND the profits would remain here

:thumbsup:
 
   / made in usa ? #14  
I had the Salvation Army out to get some furniture from my late Mom's house and they told me they don't take computer desks. I asked them why and it's because people can get them from Wally-World, etc dirt cheap.

So cheap Chinese made crap affects charities too; just in a different way.
 
   / made in usa ? #15  
Why not get hung up on it?

If the parts were actually manufactured here, there would be jobs in engineering, production, sales, distribution, supply chain, etc etc etc AND the profits would remain here.

Many foreign companies set up "pass through" holding companies that buy and sell at zero profit to avoid paying taxes. That doesn't help us at all, now does it?


Well Said. And to the OP's question, It has to have a certain percentage of of MADE IN USA parts on it to be classified MADE IN USA. buy I'm not sure what percentage that is. This question came up a while back on a diesel forum, and IIRC it was 58% that had to be domestic.
 
   / made in usa ? #16  
why do case and new holland reads made in usa on the tractor plate ? even the case dealer told me there are only assembled in usa

I think you mean to say, its just assembled in USA, not manufactured in USA is it so?
 
   / made in usa ?
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#17  
MADE in USA. Is right on Case plate. Even had the sales rep.look at it . I was told Case is only assembled in USA
 
   / made in usa ? #18  
Well Said. And to the OP's question, It has to have a certain percentage of of MADE IN USA parts on it to be classified MADE IN USA. buy I'm not sure what percentage that is. This question came up a while back on a diesel forum, and IIRC it was 58% that had to be domestic.

Unfortunately, the Federal Trade Commission has never established a percentage of content required for "Made in USA" status. A few years ago, 75% was kicked around but never made into law. Current law states "all or substantially all" must be made in USA. I guess that leaves it to your / their interpretation.
 
   / made in usa ? #19  
"Cheap labor is only a perk for companies that outsource to other countries. These factories don't have OSHA, EPA, Workers comp, NAACP, Labor Unions, and multitudes of tax levies. A line worker in an overseas factory can lose an arm or eyeball and they'll carry him out the door, wish him well, and speed the line up so production don't drop. It's impossible for an American co. to compete with them......."

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.

Cheap labor is not a "perk." It is a market reality. The cheapest way to bring a product to market is the most logical. Like the natural flow of water, business follows the path of least resistance. And that is the way it should be.

It's great to say "Made in the USA" and have bumper stickers on your car and all that. IT MEANS NOTHING. Why? The American buying public...over and over....and voted with their checkbooks and said....over and over.....that they want the cheapest price they can get for any given product. In turn, companies follow suit.

It's simple, basic, pure economics. That's all it is. If you want an American made TV, great. Get ready to pay 50% more for it due to labor cost, government regs, health care costs, etc. Are you ready to do that? Will you actually follow through with it? You and your fellow consumers will have to decide to do so, en masse, to bring this about. Are you ready and able to do that with multiple additional consumer products while considering your bank balance? I DARE SAY "NO" and do so quite confidently.

Don't debate economics with me, you will lose on basic reason.........
 
   / made in usa ? #20  
"Cheap labor is only a perk for companies that outsource to other countries. These factories don't have OSHA, EPA, Workers comp, NAACP, Labor Unions, and multitudes of tax levies. A line worker in an overseas factory can lose an arm or eyeball and they'll carry him out the door, wish him well, and speed the line up so production don't drop. It's impossible for an American co. to compete with them......."

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.

Cheap labor is not a "perk." It is a market reality. The cheapest way to bring a product to market is the most logical. Like the natural flow of water, business follows the path of least resistance. And that is the way it should be.

It's great to say "Made in the USA" and have bumper stickers on your car and all that. IT MEANS NOTHING. Why? The American buying public...over and over....and voted with their checkbooks and said....over and over.....that they want the cheapest price they can get for any given product. In turn, companies follow suit.

It's simple, basic, pure economics. That's all it is. If you want an American made TV, great. Get ready to pay 50% more for it due to labor cost, government regs, health care costs, etc. Are you ready to do that? Will you actually follow through with it? You and your fellow consumers will have to decide to do so, en masse, to bring this about. Are you ready and able to do that with multiple additional consumer products while considering your bank balance? I DARE SAY "NO" and do so quite confidently.

Don't debate economics with me, you will lose on basic reason.........
Well stated. You have hit the nail square on the head.
 

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