Mowing Mahindra 4110 - 5' or 6' Rotary Cutter?

[Dougster]

Well, some good news finally. I found a place reasonably close to our new property that will rent me a 5-foot Land Pride for $130/day. :thumbsup: That's essentially the same rotary cutter that I rented and used successfully way back when... just a different color. :laughing: That pretty much solves everything for right now. While it will probably take me all day to do my 6 acres, at least I won't be faced with leaving any unprotected equipment overnight at the new property.

I also got the phone number of a person who may be interested in doing the job for me. I'll be calling them tomorrow morning for a price.

Either way, this is a huge load off my mind. Now, I get to address the buying thing next spring when I should be in a better financial position with better options all around. Hallelujah!

 

[DiskDoctr]

I run a 5' rotary/mulcher on my 3510 and a 7ft finish mower.

It's a diesel, but except for the size of the front wheels and the diesel vs gas, they are the same tractor

The 7' is a Maschio and it's a heavy beast. I don't run like mad, bouncing it all around when it's raised, but have never had any problems. I mow uphill in M2 without any slowdowns. M3 level, flat, or not high grass.

Mine is a 2004 vintage. Not sure if Mahindra had revamps in the 4110 like the other models, but for the one in 2004....

 

[Dougster]

I run a 5' rotary/mulcher on my 3510 and a 7ft finish mower.

It's a diesel, but except for the size of the front wheels and the diesel vs gas, they are the same tractor

The 7' is a Maschio and it's a heavy beast. I don't run like mad, bouncing it all around when it's raised, but have never had any problems. I mow uphill in M2 without any slowdowns. M3 level, flat, or not high grass.

Mine is a 2004 vintage. Not sure if Mahindra had revamps in the 4110 like the other models, but for the one in 2004....

Not sure what you meant about diesel vs. gas (Both the 2004 4110 and 2004 3510 are diesels), but thanks for the mowing report. One interesting thing about the dealer with the rental 5-footer... he also has a 7' (84 inch) offset dual spindle for rent. I would love to try it just to see what it can do behind my 4110, but higher rental cost is an issue ($175/day) and transport to our property and unloading wouldn't be as simple or easy. :dance1:

Sure wish he had a 6-footer for me to try, but no luck there.

 

[DiskDoctr]

Not sure what you meant about diesel vs. gas (Both the 2004 4110 and 2004 3510 are diesels)

Hmm...it seems my service manual says the same thing. When I ordered mine years ago at Tarheel Tractor, they gave me 3 options: 3510 with Mitsubishi engine and hydrostatic, 3510 3 cylinder diesel, and 4110 with 4 cylinder GAS (!)

I remember the conversation clearly when I asked what benefit, if any, the 4110 motor would have. We talked about the low end torque of the diesel and high end hp and gas consumption of the 4110.

Well, heck. They must've been wrong. They did have my trailer all messed up, too, with brakes only on one axle (PA requires all axles if a braked trailer) and no title or certificate of origin (BIG hassle with PA DMV). So I refused delivery of the trailer.

They aren't in business any more, maybe things like that are why?

In any case, I apologize for posting incorrect info

With your 41hp 4 cylinder diesel, you should do even better than I do with mowers. But $175/day? Ouch!

 

[Dougster]

Hmm...it seems my service manual says the same thing. When I ordered mine years ago at Tarheel Tractor, they gave me 3 options: 3510 with Mitsubishi engine and hydrostatic, 3510 3 cylinder diesel, and 4110 with 4 cylinder GAS (!)

I remember the conversation clearly when I asked what benefit, if any, the 4110 motor would have. We talked about the low end torque of the diesel and high end hp and gas consumption of the 4110.

Well, heck. They must've been wrong. They did have my trailer all messed up, too, with brakes only on one axle (PA requires all axles if a braked trailer) and no title or certificate of origin (BIG hassle with PA DMV). So I refused delivery of the trailer.

They aren't in business any more, maybe things like that are why?

In any case, I apologize for posting incorrect info

With your 41hp 4 cylinder diesel, you should do even better than I do with mowers. But $175/day? Ouch!

No worries! If it ain't a diesel, I've been feeding it the wrong fuel for decade now! :laughing: No ill effects so far! :cool2:

 

[DiskDoctr]

No worries! If it ain't a diesel, I've been feeding it the wrong fuel for decade now! :laughing: No ill effects so far! :cool2:

That's awesome! LOL.

 

[LD1]

I have no clue why do many dealers try to steer people towards undersized equipment. I see it here on TBN all the time and it boggles my mind that dealers dont have a clue about the equipment they sell.

You will have no issues at all with a 6' cutter. Even a HD 6' cutter. There is no difference in a HD, MD or SD 6' cutter in how they will run on the tractor. Only difference is weight and durability. And even a 1100-1200# HD cutter on your 4000# machine is nothing at all to worry about.

While my tractors have not been mahindras, I have had a 2600#/29PTO HP kubota that I mowed probably close to 1000 acres with over the last 4-5 years. The cutter was a 1100# bushhog 306 6' cutter. But due to the weight of the tractor, I did have to keep the FEL on.

MY new tractor is a 3800# machine. Bout the same as yours with a little more power. No issues at all with the 1100# cutter and NO loader. I have a larger mower now, over 1600#. And without the loader, yes the front is light, but I still mow without the loader anyway. Because when mowing the tailwheels of the mower support most of the weight....which means the front of the tractor is no longer "light".

A freaking dealer that tells you HD or even MD 5' cutters were not advisable, and that you should only stick to light duty 5' cutters......thats a dealer I would never visit again

 

[DiskDoctr]

Something I strongly recommend for anyone running PTO based equipment is an overrun clutch, like this: SpeeCo Over-running Clutch Adapter, Male Spline 1-3/8 in. x 6 - For Life Out Here

Especially mowers. It can protect your PTO/clutches/etc, relieves stress on the PTO when disengaging, and since the metal is weaker than your PTO, the stresses go to it instead of your PTO system.

I've replaced mine once in the past 12yrs and was happy to do it. the splines were starting to twist. Much better than my PTO taking the damage or stress of that, I thought :thumbsup:

It's one of the first things I buy when getting any tractor with PTO. My buddy is working on his older tractor because a mower pushed him through an obstacle when it didn't disengage properly

Keep in mind, it does add just a little extra length to your PTO, so think about driveshaft lengths when you install it.

 

[LD1]

Most modern tractors have an internal ORC, or a independent PTO. Those ORC's are not at all necessary. Those are more for older tractors with a transmission driven PTO

 

[DiskDoctr]

Most modern tractors have an internal ORC, or a independent PTO. Those ORC's are not at all necessary. Those are more for older tractors with a transmission driven PTO

Not necessary, as in won't push the tractor, true.

But in my experience, twisting the splines on them is better than the PTO shaft, and no sense having an implement drive force into your PTO, even if it is clutched out. The overrun clutch does a nice job of keeping that inertia out of the PTO.

It's cheap insurance and only takes a few mins.

I also run a large tiller and was unpleasantly surprised when it stalled the tractor when hitting something. It has a slip clutch in the driveshaft that apparently didn't slip It's likely stuff like that contributed to the twisted overrun clutch splines- stuff that "shouldn't" happen because of design, LOL.

Another thing that shouldn't happen, too, is if you bind up an implement, such as a post hole digger. PTOs don't run backwards, but with the overrun clutch installed, it can allow a release of tension in the driveline, especially if you have to manually turn the implement. Don't know if the overrun clutch helped, or if the PTO is free enough inside when stopped, but I've had that situation and resolved okay. One or the other, or both contributed for sure

As always, it's up to you what you use or not, this is what I do and why :drink: