Mahindra vrs Massey

[2deeskip]

Been reading the posts for some time now as I put myself in the compact tractor market a few months back. What I've read in the forums is both enlightenment and entertainment. I finally signed on and here is the point. I've pretty much narrowed my choices to the Mahindra 2015 or the Massey 2310, with FEL/hoe & some type of mower. You Mahindra Guys (or Gals) tell me why I should go with the 2015. I have about 12 acres, much of it steep hills which I may try to do some partial brush hogging, but I mow and maintain about 2 acres of level. I plan to use it for all kinds of stuff that I haven't even thought of yet. Any and all opinions are appreciated.

 

[DavesTractor]

I'm not familiar with the lift capacity or digging depth on the Massey, but the little 2015 lifts 915 lbs with the front loader (at the pins) and digs 7'10" with the backhoe and has a reach of 10 feet. It's an impressive machine, built by Mitsubishi n Japan. I've heard good things about the Massey as well.

 

[JerryG]

Someone may tell me that I am wrong, but I think that the Mahindra is a little bigger tractor. If it is it should have more capability. Bigger means more work faster smaller means getting around tight places better. The MF would be better on steep hills because the center of gravity is lower. It is all a trade off to which thing is more important to you.

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

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If you compare the specs you will find the 2015 a larger stronger heavier tractor. The GC2310 has more HP.

GC2310 - 2015
Horse power 22.5 - 20
Length 97.6" - 106"
Width 48" - 53.5"
Weight 2600# - 3700#
3ph lift 1190# - 1400#

The Massey has a little HP advantage to run the mower and the Mahindra has the size weight and capacity advantage to do the ground work (loader backhoe and pulling traction). I believe the Mahindra surely has the overall advantage. Good luck with your decision.

Galen LaWall
Your Mahindra Tractor Dealer
Batavia NY
585-343-0770

 

[Bob_Skurka]

I've pretty much narrowed my choices to the Mahindra 2015 or the Massey 2310, with FEL/hoe & some type of mower. . . I have about 12 acres, much of it steep hills which I may try to do some partial brush hogging, but I mow and maintain about 2 acres of level. I plan to use it for all kinds of stuff that I haven't even thought of yet. Any and all opinions are appreciated.

First off let me start off by suggesting that both of these tractors are too small for 12 acres of land, unless you are not planning on using the majority of that land.

Now you do state that 2 acres is to be mowed, and is level, so either choice would be be good for 2 acres.

It is the other 10 that I question. If you are planning on bush hogging 10 acres on a fairly regular basis with either of these tractors then I think you will be disappointed.

The Massey, being a low profile sub-compact tractor, will probably be more stable on the steep spots than the Mahindra. The Massey also has a couple more PTO horsepower to run the rotary cutter, which will help in the thicker stuff during hogging. But the reality is neither of these is well suited to hogging. The Mahindra would have the greater capacity so a rotary cutter would be easier to handle with the Mahindra but it has lower power to run the cutter. The Massey has 10% more power, but is a sub-compact and not well suited to rough terrain. The Mahindra has a much higher center of gravity so it will be far less capable in steep places. While the Massey will have the greater stability, it has less ground clearance so if the steeps places are rough, then it will be unable to effectively go there.

So like I said, I think both machines are going to be a disappointment for you. If you limit your choice to the 2 acres alone, then I would probably opt for the smaller Massey with a Mid Mount Mower. Going to the remaining 10 of your 12 acers would having me looking at a stable tight turning ~30 horsepower tractor with the lowest center of gravity I could find. That would probably lead me to a Power Trac.

As a matter of fact, given the contours of the land I know in Pennsylvania, and given your description, perhaps a PT425 would be a great tractor choice? It has enough power to run a 60" mower deck without bogging down when the grass is heavy. It would take easily be substantially more stable than any traditional tractor. As you don't already own implements you don't have any real disadvantage with the proprietary implements of the PT brand. A PT422 is more similar in power to your two choices, however the PT425 has high torque wheel motors to allow it to manage the steep climbs. One drawback to a PT is that there is no 'real' backhoe available. Then again, most of the small tractor backhoes are marginal at best and I find I rent a real hoe more often than I use the Great Bend hoe I have.

 

[BobG_in_VA]

I wouldn't even consider anything a small as a 20 or so HP tractor. Suggest you look at the 2615 as a minimum on the Mahinda side. Don't know much about the Massey, but if you get a BH, you won't be happy with anything as light as the Massey, and you won't be happy with the HP from the 2015 Mahindra. Think bigger... BobG in VA

 

[DavesTractor]

Just a comment on HP, the Mahindra 2015 uses the Mitsu S3L engine, rated at 20HP in that tractor, yet rated at 23 HP in the new TYM and in other applications. We have a PTO dyno, and it dyno's 3HP over what the specs say, which confirms that we are really looking at 23HP. When I talked to Mitsu about this, they said when they brought it in for Mahindra, they were looking for a 20HP engine, so it was tested for EPA at that number and that is how it is rated. I suspect real PTO power between this and the Massey would be quite similar.

 

[shvl73]

I have about 12 acres, much of it steep hills which I may try to do some partial brush hogging, but I mow and maintain about 2 acres of level. I plan to use it for all kinds of stuff that I haven't even thought of yet. Any and all opinions are appreciated.

I think you're looking at a good size for what you've described. I have a shy 12 acres of mostly field and have leased another 6 acres of field. I mow it with my 28hp tractor with a BrushBull 60" cutter EASILY. I look forward to the seat time and I don't cut it all at once. I only cut about monthly and it works very well. many here have larger tractors with far less land and if that is the desire, go for it. It doesn't sound as if you'll be cutting anywhere near all 12 acres, so I don't see the need for anything bigger. The 2015 will work very well with a 48" cutter and a 60" finish mower for the lawn. A larger machine will make ruts when it's wet and you'll be wishing for turf tires or a rider mower for the lawn. You may curse the turf tires when the going gets rough on the rest of the property. The 2015 will also take a multitude of other handy attachments like a tiller for a garden, a posthole digger for fencing, a good sized backhoe, box blade, etc...
I've no experience with the Massey but I've been on a 2015, good machine.
Good luck with your choice.

 

[knute_m]

What I've read in the forums is both enlightenment and entertainment.

I guess I'll probably be pouring gasoline onto a burning fire. But, I guess that is part of the entertainment of this website.

I think this size tractor is fully capable of maintaining this size property.

I have a total of 32 acres of West Virginia land. Much like parts of Pennsylvania, West Virginia is not real flat. I currently maintain it with a 2015 4WD with FEL and a number of other implements. On the 25 acre parcel we live on, I have over a half-mile of driveway to maintain. I bushog about 5 acres a couple times a year. We get snow, sometimes a lot of it.

I've owned a lot of big and small tractors. The biggest small tractor I ever had was a John Deere H. I believe it was a whopping 11 hp -- but could it work! Those big rear tires sure helped move a lot of snow, using a home-made "armstrong-lift" front blade. The belt ran lots of equipment, especially a sawmill and a "buzz saw." Horsepower is not the only answer.

I've had several Ford N series and a 1958 Massey 65. For the type of property I now live on, I know my little 2015 will outdo anyone of them.

You Mahindra Guys (or Gals) tell me why I should go with the 2015. I have about 12 acres, much of it steep hills which I may try to do some partial brush hogging, but I mow and maintain about 2 acres of level.

I started looking at the 3015. I figured it was too big. I looked real hard at the 2615 -- which is certainly a great machine for this size land. But, I finally decided that the 2015 was the best suited to what I do.

Before I bought the Mahindra 2015, I looked underneath a lot of newer tractors. On the type of property I now have, and what I believe 2deeskip probably has, I always have the risk of running over, and into, a lot of low lying hidden things-- stumps, big rocks, etc. My last two small tractors were all cast iron in the front, and they took it without complaint. Take a hard look not only at the clearance and weight of the Mahindra, but look real hard at the front axle compared to many of the other newer tractors of similar size. I'll take the Mahindra any day.

Good Luck,

Knute

 

[2deeskip]

Thanks for all the feedback. I agree with most of you about the Mahindra being bassically moore tractor, hence the higher price. Funny you should bring up Power Trac Bob, as I was really into those things, even stopped in Tazewell on a trip about a month ago. I like the fact that they are made here in good old USA, and I belive made very sturdy, & the versatility of them. My hang up is they are not a "real" tractor, for whatever that is worth. I guess I really haven't completely rulled Power Trac out tho.
I visited the Massey dealer again today & all the incentives went down and the interest rates went up. I also looked them over with a differnt eye & came up with a few little things that bothered me.
Still on the fence, as when it comes to spending that kind of money, I spend a lot of time on it.