Maintaining peace while shooting

[4570Man]

One thing you can be sure of, anything you learned about guns and shooting from Hollywood is/was wrong.

You mean holding your gun sideways doesn't make it shoot better, and a silencer doesn't make a 357 mag or a 308 silent?

 

[k0ua]

You mean holding your gun sideways doesn't make it shoot better, and a silencer doesn't make a 357 mag or a 308 silent?

That, and a thousand other things I have seen on TV and in movies. Who doesn't remember Colt Peacemakers holding perhaps 20 rounds in their cylinders. Or WWII era sub-machine guns firing several minutes without magazine changes. Anyone that has ever been handed a subgun with a 30 round mag in it knows just how rapidly the fun is over. "you mean I am out of ammo?" Yep, coupla squirts and you are done.

 

[Jstpssng]

That, and a thousand other things I have seen on TV and in movies. Who doesn't remember Colt Peacemakers holding perhaps 20 rounds in their cylinders. Or WWII era sub-machine guns firing several minutes without magazine changes. Anyone that has ever been handed a subgun with a 30 round mag in it knows just how rapidly the fun is over. "you mean I am out of ammo?" Yep, coupla squirts and you are done.

ANYTHING from "Diehard"... Bruce Willis is up in a police helicopter chasing a terrorist but nobody's armed. Later he takes a snubnosed revolver and shoots down a high tension wire, causing it to land on the terrorist helicopter, with nice visual effects. I've seen when a tractor trailer hooked a wire and pulled several poles down, yet the wire doesn't break.

I'm not much fun to watch TV with, I can't keep quiet about some of the stupid stuff you see.

 

[jymbee]

I'm not much fun to watch TV with, I can't keep quiet about some of the stupid stuff you see.

I'm a lifelong member of that same club! Too many trite clichés too even begin to list but some cowboy white hat knocking off a dozen or so black hat bad guys with one revolver without reloading is an old classic.

 

[davesl708]

ANYTHING from "Diehard"... Bruce Willis is up in a police helicopter chasing a terrorist but nobody's armed. Later he takes a snubnosed revolver and shoots down a high tension wire, causing it to land on the terrorist helicopter, with nice visual effects. I've seen when a tractor trailer hooked a wire and pulled several poles down, yet the wire doesn't break.

I'm not much fun to watch TV with, I can't keep quiet about some of the stupid stuff you see.

I always love when the gunfighter could shoot six bottles in one second at fifty feet with a single action old army Colt but when shooting at the star cannot hit the ground. Then they have 20 rounds in their six shooter. Or when the star after firing dozens of rounds finally get the bad guy with a shot from the hip at 100 yards.

I always felt inadequate with a gun after watching those movies.

 

[dmccarty]

I'm going to guess one reason there is a legal aversion to them is that they make this technology, which a lot of law enforcement agencies are investing in, obsolete: ShotSpotter Gunshot Detection and Location Service | Protect Critical Infrastructure, Campuses, Cities

The US legal regulations/prohibition on suppressors has existed decades, if not half a century, before the new shot detection systems.

Later,
Dan

 

[bcp]

The US legal regulations/prohibition on suppressors has existed decades, if not half a century, before the new shot detection systems.

Later,
Dan

1934 comes to mind.

Bruce

 

[k0ua]

1934 comes to mind.

Bruce

Yep that was the year. Think how much more $200 would have meant to a person back then.

 

[hutchman]

Yep that was the year. Think how much more $200 would have meant to a person back then.

Shhhh, quit talking about it there has been talk of raising it to today's dollars to make it more painful as it was meant to harass and limit those that would do it. I have enough Form 1's I want to do that's costing me a fortune already ...

 

[MossRoad]

I'm going to guess one reason there is a legal aversion to them is that they make this technology, which a lot of law enforcement agencies are investing in, obsolete: ShotSpotter Gunshot Detection and Location Service | Protect Critical Infrastructure, Campuses, Cities

Things may have changed but we had the Boomerang system on one of my 'vacations' and it did well in the open but in urban/city environments ... not so much. Tall buildings, trucks, cars etc., ... all cause reflections of the sound. So I'm pretty sure they are a big waste of tax payer dollars for one. Secondly, what good does it do to bring police into an area where they suspect something happened but yet no one will cooperate with the police? This is the biggest problem currently going on at all these 'peaceful' gatherings we've all watched on the news the past few years. There is no substitute for a cop on the beat that has a rapport with citizens.

Call me skeptical ... for the money Richmond has spent for two years on this system ($591,915) they could of had 20 additional cops at $30K a year (police don't make much ... they don't do it for the money):
Shotspotter helps RPD respond to gunfire | Richmond Confidential

Plus, criminals in the area where these things are won't be stupid. They will illegally use a suppressor or figure out where the microphones are and take their business to where they aren't ... they aren't interested in coughing up $200, going through a long background check at the nations central fingerprint/biometrics facility and following the law like we do.

For what its worth....

They have the spot shotter system in South Bend, Indiana. In the areas of town where the spot shotter is used, residents report gunfire at a rate of 33% per incident, compared to the areas that don't have the spot shotter system, where residents report gunfire at a rate of only 11% per incident. The police chief believes that this increase in community involvement is because police respond extremely fast to the spot shotter area and the residents see that fast response, so they are getting more confident that the police will show up if they call the police. That's a 200% increase in community reported gunfire VS before the spot shotter system was installed a little over a year ago.