Major Warranty work done

[Clydes]

Just thought I would post some issues with my branson, so that others can look into it as well.

Just had major warranty work done....All new AC compressor and condensor, new hydraulic pump....all AC lines vacummed out....new instrument cluster.

This is my second Branson, my first was a 4720. They changed out the instrument cluster because the hour meter was not working properly. For every hour it read on the meter it put 2.3 hours on the motor. Maybe good for resale but for those who perform preventative maint. on there tractor off the hour meter....not good. So, in a nutshell for every 100 hours on the meter you have 230 hours or so on the motor. I'm on my second Branson now the 6530 and it is doing the same thing. So this is a big issue since this was my third cluster. I went to a friends house who has a 6530 as well, his is reading the exact same time. Might want to check yours out so that you don't put more wear and tear on the motor between maint. checks

 

[Clydes]

Oh...forgot to mention. My tractor was showing 39 hours on the meter with all the warranty issues. My friends 6530 shows 112 and he has had the same warranty work done..Hydraulic pump, AC issues and now instrument cluster

 

[TRM]

The hydraulic pump was changed for what reason? My 4720 acts like a air bubble passes through it occasionaly

Thanks Tom

 

[Clydes]

it was chanaged because everytime I used the loader and even most time turning the steering wheel it would act like a major strain on the pump, jerk sometimes, whine really loud. My buddies tractor did the same thing so they swapped his out as well. Pretty dissapointing. What about your hour meter?

 

[BobQ]

About the hour meter, they only read hour for hour at full pto rpm, at any speed less they read less. If you want to read true hour for hour, you need an electric hour meter.

It kinda makes sence, you put alot more wear and tear on the machine at full pto rpm then something less.

I think most machines are like this? I know air planes are!

Bob

 

[Clydes]

I tested mine at all different RPM's, exact same result. If it only counts accurate time at PTO speed, how can anyone determine the amount of time on the tractor and when to do maintenance? If that was the case then a person who does landscaping for a living would never know when to do a oil change, filter change since 90% of the time is not going to be running high RPM's to grade and move dirt. Doesn't make a bit of sense to me. If that was the case, then the 15 hours I spent speeding a hay field, spreading fertalizer and then covering up all which was not done at PTO speeds shouldn't show the true hours? Or the 5 hours of loader work and grader with the box blade doesn't count on engine hours used? None of my other tractors have done that, they all keep accurate hours. I've added a electronic meter to my tractor to show true hours. After spending 38K for a tractor, I sure would like to know what the true hours are for maintenance.

 

[DavesTractor]

If you drive your car at 30MPH it takes 2 minutes to log one mile. If you drive at 60MPH it takes one minute to log a mile. The hour meter on most ag type tractors are designed with a similar concept, the hour meter is actually tied to the amount of actual revolutions of the engine. In that sense, it is better than a simple Hobbs meter, although having both is nice.

I know, a mile is still a mile, so an hour should still be an hour, so my example has a flaw, but I hope this helps explain.

 

[Clydes]

I agree with what your saying, however everything has ecceptable limits. 2.4 hours to every hour in my eyes is not even close. Best way for me to eliminate the headache is a 8 dollar electronic meter, then I can judge when to do maintenance

 

[dancce]

Just don't forget and leave the key on with the engine not running, or you will be spending a lot of money on unecessary oil and filter changes----most of the cheap $8 electronic meters run when the key is in the on position.
As Dave pointed out---engine hours are not related to actual hours in the day.Engine hours are strictly related to the engines running conditions, based on engine RPMs.
To put this in perspective----if for some reason the engine is run at full RPMs (wide open) for 8hrs (according to your wristwatch) , you would actually be putting more than 8 hours on the engine---admittedly this would be rare, but in that scenario, if run this way regularly, you would not be changing the oil/filters soon enough, if relying on an electronic clock.
Frankly, I can't believe the dealer changed out the dash to correct a non-existent problem----(unless I am missing something here).

dancce

 

[mudcat]

Frankly, I can't believe the dealer changed out the dash to correct a non-existent problem----(unless I am missing something here).

dancce

I was wondering the same thing?