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   / making a boom pole?.... #11  
I think you may be further ahead if you go to a metal salvage yard and get some heavier gage steel. I am like one of the other posters on this thread said, "always trying to lift things heavier than the boom was designed to lift". The end of my boom pole is much closer to the ground than it once was. I have used galvanized steel pipe for many things and found that it is great for some things but it is quite soft and bends much easier than the heavier gage steel tubing. I also like the stick welder for the heavier welding projects.
I like the 3pt hitch thingamajig you found. It is simple in design but looks like it can do many things for you.
Farwell
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #12  
Here's one I made from some scrap schedule 40 galvanized pipe and pieces of 1/2" square steel. I used a stick welder on this one. Pipe was bent on a hydraulic bender I rescued at a company garage sale (real cheap). With the rig you found, I'd make it detachable so you could cobble up some other "attachments". Looks like it could be fun.............chim

Edit to add: I can get the front end of the tractor - a B7500 - off the ground without affecting the pole.
 

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   / making a boom pole?.... #13  
When you weld galvanized metal it gives off phosgene gas - which is one of the things the English, Germans, and French used to gas each other with during WW1. If you using MIG or TIG the galvy can contaminate the weld too - grind off all the galvy in the weld area and you should be ok. If you are worried about corrosion you can use steel and then paint it afterwards with one of the spray galvanize coatings - RustOleum makes one that works really well.
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #14  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( When you weld galvanized metal it gives off phosgene gas - )</font>

Sorry, but I believe you're mistaken about the phosgene. The fumes from welding galvanized steel would contain vaporized zinc and zinc oxide along with iron vapor from the steel and maybe lead vapor too.

Phosgene is a compound of carbon, oxygen, and chlorine. I can't see where you could get any chlorine from galvanized steel, and not much carbon either.

With all respect,

Tom
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #15  
Welding near perclorethylene (dry cleaning solvent) DOES produce phosgene....It is NOT PLEASANT!!!
So...please leave your welder in the car when you get your suits.
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #16  
Must be one of those urban legends about the phosgene coming from welding galvanized metal because I have heard it from numerous sources over the past 50 years, may have even read it in welding manuals. Have to check that one out. I still am going to use plenty of ventilation when working with galvanized metals.
Farwell
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #17  
Although I didn't think of it in my earlier post, I think the main worry about welding around zinc is cadmium vapor. Like lead, cadmium is an impurity found naturally in zinc and is pretty toxic stuff. In recent times, the safety folks have gotten pretty concerned about our day-to-day exposure to cadmium. Like lead, it accumulates in our bodies and in most of us, the amount starts at zero at birth and maxes out around age 50.

As bobodu said, welding around chlorinated solvents like perchloroethylene or trichloroethylene (TCE) can produce phosgene. Since TCE is used as a degreaser, it seems possible that someone could use it on some steel, and then weld soon after, making a little phosgene. As long as the solvent had dried first, though, I wouldn't think there would be much of any residual TCE or much phosgene either. I could be wrong.

Tom
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #18  
A good way to get rid of the galvanized coating is to dip it area in Muratic Acid and flush with water. Well ventilated area, etc, etc, etc...........
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #19  
From the cdc website.
http://www.cdc.gov/elcosh/docs/d0100/d000026/d000026.html
Welding produces metal fumes and gases that can make you sick. The hazard depends on:

The welding method (such as MIG, TIG, or stick)
What the welding rod (electrode) is made of
Filler metals and base metals (such as mild steel and stainless steel)
Paints and other coatings on the metals being welded
Ventilation.
The Hazards


In confined spaces, welding can be deadly. Without enough ventilation, toxic fumes and gases can be much stronger. Shielding gases, like argon, can displace the oxygen and kill you.
METALS. These are some of the toxic metals:

Stainless steel contains nickel and chromium, which can cause asthma. Nickel and chromium 6 can cause cancer. Chromium can cause sinus problems and “holes” between the nostrils.
Carbon steel contains more manganese than some other metals do. Manganese can cause Parkinson’s disease, which cripples the nerves and muscles.
Zinc in galvanized metal or in paint can cause metal fume fever. It feels like the flu and goes away in a few hours or days after exposure ends.
COATINGS and RESIDUES
Lead (in some paints) can cause lead poisoning — headaches, sore muscles and joints, nausea, stomach cramps, irritability, memory loss, anemia, and kidney and nervous system damage. If lead dust goes home on work clothes/shoes, it can make your family sick, most of all your children.
Cadmium (in some paints and fillers) can cause kidney problems and cancer.
Other coatings may contain isocyanates, which can cause asthma; one type (TDI) may cause cancer.

SOLVENTS
Welding through or near some (chlorinated) solvents can produce phosgene, a poisonous gas. The gas can cause fluid in the lungs. You may not notice the problem until hours after you quit welding. But fluid in your lungs can kill you.

GASES
When carbon dioxide is used for shielding, carbon monoxide can form and kill you. Carbon monoxide can form also in oxyacetylene welding.
The welding arc can form ozone and nitrogen oxides from the air. MIG and TIG welding make the most ozone, most of all when aluminum is welded. These fumes irritate the eyes, ear, nose, throat, and lungs and can damage the lungs.
Some nitrogen oxides can cause fluid in the lungs.

Protect Yourself


All gases, fumes, and vapors that come from metal, paints, fluxes, degreasers, rods during welding are covered by the OSHA hazcom standard. So, your employer must train you about the risks and show you material safety data sheets (MSDSs) about any of the chemicals, if you ask. Also:

OSHA says you must remove all paint and solvents before welding or torch cutting. Make sure all residues are removed.
Use the safest welding method for the job. Stick welding makes much less fume than flux core welding.
Use welding rods that produce a low fume. 90% of the fume can come from the rod. Welding guns that extract fumes can capture 95% of the fume.
In a confined space, follow all the OSHA confined-space rules — like air monitoring, not storing torches in the space, and ventilation.
OSHA says you must have good ventilation.
Use local-exhaust ventilation to remove fumes and gases at their source in still air. Keep the exhaust hood opening 4” to 6” from the fume source even when you are not in a confined space.
Use air blowers to blow fumes away from you when you are outdoors and it’s windy.
Keep your face far from the welding plume.
If you are not sure the ventilation is good, use a respirator. If respirators are used, OSHA says your employer must have a full respiratory protection program. This means proper selection and fitting of respirators, medical screening to be sure a worker can wear a respirator, and worker training. Correct respirator storage and cleaning and an evaluation of the program are needed.
If you smoke, quit.
OSHA has limits for exposure to metals, gases, and total fumes during welding. But these limits may not protect you enough, because they are out of date. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) says welding fumes may cause cancer, so keep the fume levels as low as possible.

For more information, call your local union, the Center to Protect Workers' Rights (CPWR) (301-578-8500 or www.cpwr.com ), the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (1-800-35-NIOSH, 1-800-356-4674 or www.cdc.gov/niosh ), or OSHA (1-800-321-OSHA or www.osha.gov). Or go to www.elcosh.org.
 
   / making a boom pole?.... #20  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( From the cdc website. "Use air blowers to blow fumes away from you when you are outdoors and it’s windy." )</font>

<font color="green">Lot's of good advice in regards to protecting one's health while welding.

Someone smarter than me is going to have to explain the above quoted precaution.

Seems like it should say to use blowers outdoors when it is NOT windy. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Mike </font>
 

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