RNeumann
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Is that a split phase gen
Manual hand pump for wells
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Good stuff here, thanks. I need to measure the depth and static water level to see exactly what will work.
We have two bold year-round creeks on the property, but both are fed from cattle farms. In a pinch, we could use them as a water source with proper treatment. We have a seeping periodic spring, but dont know if it could provide enough water. We also have a small generator hooked to the well pump and furnace. We have used that for shorter outages (day long for example).
We have two bold year-round creeks on the property, but both are fed from cattle farms. In a pinch, we could use them as a water source with proper treatment. We have a seeping periodic spring, but dont know if it could provide enough water. We also have a small generator hooked to the well pump and furnace. We have used that for shorter outages (day long for example).
RNeumann
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Static water levels can fluctuate- be sure and check it at the end of a dry season.
PILOON
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I agree on the generator approach.
12-13 years ago we had what was a predicted long power outage and I called my favorite tool supply house and the said that a truckload of gensets were on route so I reserved and showed up at 4:30 left at 5:00 with a battery started 5000 watt genset that they filled with oil and did a quick run test and then loaded my car.
I wanted electric start as I have had just too much grief with cantankerous small engines.
Best thing I have done in a long time.
I regularly exercise it (under load) and keep a battery tender connected so that it is always ready to start.
A proper manual transfer box completed the installation at a later date.
The supplied battery died within a year so I replaced it with wet cell ATV battery and the tender has kept it fully charged for 8 years.
My total outlay is about $600. and during frequent power outages we can cook, watch TV, surf the net and read.
The only lacking convenience is hot water as the tank* simply draws too many amps but the water pump (220 VAC) and septic pump operates just fine.
Main thing is water, septic, fridge and freezer which are all covered. The rest is luxury in such situations.
*one longish outage I opted to shower no matter how cold or cool the water would be and was surprised that the remaining tank water was quite comfortable and that was 4 days later! Todays tanks are extremely well insulated.
LOL, I did not need to mix hot with cold either.
Cooking is a hot plate and microwave with hot water boiled via hot plate with coffee or tea nuked 'by the cupful'.
For heat we have a fireplace and slow combustion stove.
U regularly 'exercise' my genset and use a plug in heater to provide a load.
It is stored in my attached woodshed with an extension on the exhaust to run it thru a dedicated hole in the wall.
In my area, end of the road, we see 4 or 6 outages a year with varied durations, most are short lived, thankfully.
12-13 years ago we had what was a predicted long power outage and I called my favorite tool supply house and the said that a truckload of gensets were on route so I reserved and showed up at 4:30 left at 5:00 with a battery started 5000 watt genset that they filled with oil and did a quick run test and then loaded my car.
I wanted electric start as I have had just too much grief with cantankerous small engines.
Best thing I have done in a long time.
I regularly exercise it (under load) and keep a battery tender connected so that it is always ready to start.
A proper manual transfer box completed the installation at a later date.
The supplied battery died within a year so I replaced it with wet cell ATV battery and the tender has kept it fully charged for 8 years.
My total outlay is about $600. and during frequent power outages we can cook, watch TV, surf the net and read.
The only lacking convenience is hot water as the tank* simply draws too many amps but the water pump (220 VAC) and septic pump operates just fine.
Main thing is water, septic, fridge and freezer which are all covered. The rest is luxury in such situations.
*one longish outage I opted to shower no matter how cold or cool the water would be and was surprised that the remaining tank water was quite comfortable and that was 4 days later! Todays tanks are extremely well insulated.
LOL, I did not need to mix hot with cold either.
Cooking is a hot plate and microwave with hot water boiled via hot plate with coffee or tea nuked 'by the cupful'.
For heat we have a fireplace and slow combustion stove.
U regularly 'exercise' my genset and use a plug in heater to provide a load.
It is stored in my attached woodshed with an extension on the exhaust to run it thru a dedicated hole in the wall.
In my area, end of the road, we see 4 or 6 outages a year with varied durations, most are short lived, thankfully.
I've installed two simple pumps (similar to the bison pumps) in wells alongside the normal pump (it goes in the well above the regular 4" pump alongside the wire and drop pipe). They are fairly expensive, and they don't pump a lot of water. Yes, you can tie them into your tank and backfill your tank, but in my opinion they just don't put out enough water to do this reasonably.
If it were me, I'd have a separate well drilled and install a dedicated hand pump made for volume. Fill any buckets etc needed like in the old days. The ones that go in your well with your regular pump won't do a lot of volume because they have to be small to fit in the casing with all the other pipe/wire.
If it were me, I'd have a separate well drilled and install a dedicated hand pump made for volume. Fill any buckets etc needed like in the old days. The ones that go in your well with your regular pump won't do a lot of volume because they have to be small to fit in the casing with all the other pipe/wire.
Larry Caldwell
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Deep well piston pumps are fitted with a counterweight on a rocker arm or pulley that compensates for the weight of the sucker rod and part of the water column. Oil wells use a pittman arm/traveling beam arrangement, but 100 years ago a simpler arrangement in the pump house for water pumping was used.
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Egon
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The hand operated well pumps don't got no counterweight. Today's hand pumps work just like the ones one hundred years ago.
Downhole oil well pumps got a little different configuration than the standard simple water pump.
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Agreed. It seems cheaper and easier. Even if you only had 5 gallon of gas that would pump a lot of water.
PILOON
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For sure!
Add Staybl to your gas, maybe run carb dry after using and every 5-6 months dump the gas into the car and replace with fresh gas.
And do exercise the genset every month or so.
Another recommendation is to use non alcohol gas (HI-TEST) in all small engines. (Hi test is purer, i.e. less or no alcohol)
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I still have the option to buy alcohol free gas. It’ll sit in carbs for a year with no treatment or problems. My generators get used a couple times a year and that’s the existent of their exercise.