Manual

   / Manual #91  
MR,in 2002 i went to PT for my tour,to look at the different models terry gave me the grand tour of the shop.he told me his 422 at home he never greased so he never felt it to be needed and he gave me a can super lube thats all you need /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif rightttt /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif you guys get the picture!
 
   / Manual #92  
MR,in 2002 i went to PT for my tour,to look at the different models terry gave me the grand tour of the shop.he told me his 422 at home he never greased so he never felt it to be needed and he gave me a can super lube thats all you need /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif rightttt /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif you guys get the picture!
 
   / Manual #93  
Just because something doesn't say it is copyrighted, doesn't mean it isn't.

I think what we are talking about here is regular folks writing down part numbers, taking pictures of their machines and discussing, in great detail, how their machines are put together. I don't expect anyone to nor would I participate in reproducing documentation that was provided by the Power Trac company. That would be asking for trouble and may make the company hostile to those participating in that kind of activity.
 
   / Manual #94  
Just because something doesn't say it is copyrighted, doesn't mean it isn't.

I think what we are talking about here is regular folks writing down part numbers, taking pictures of their machines and discussing, in great detail, how their machines are put together. I don't expect anyone to nor would I participate in reproducing documentation that was provided by the Power Trac company. That would be asking for trouble and may make the company hostile to those participating in that kind of activity.
 
   / Manual #95  
I certainly don't need their hostility. They might quit selling me parts. Perhaps people can order the manual that I have from Power Trac.

Bob Rip
 
   / Manual #96  
I certainly don't need their hostility. They might quit selling me parts. Perhaps people can order the manual that I have from Power Trac.

Bob Rip
 
   / Manual #97  
BobRip,

Just for clarity, are you referring to the "Service Training Manual"?
 
   / Manual #98  
BobRip,

Just for clarity, are you referring to the "Service Training Manual"?
 
   / Manual #99  
Even if PT turns out the best manual in the entire tractor industry, I think this concept has merit on several levels:

Even if I have a tractor's owner manual, sometimes I still find an IT manual handy. Same with Motor [I think gone many years ago though] and Chilton and the like. Sometimes an slightly different perspective can really make for a moment of clarity.

I was twisting wrenches on farm tractors since I was 4 years old, but many PT owners aren't quite as familiar with mechanics. PT is good at knowing their machines, so will have a hard time making one readable to many users; further, as Blackwell noted and [except, the organization in mine doesn't make too much sense] I agree, it's nice having a book that puts the information straight - so PT wouldn't want to oversimplifiy it anyway.
Since, the proposed manual -by the users, for the users, of the users- would be web-based; I think it can be possible to meet the needs of both types of user.

PT always has the right tools for the job, and they also know all the little tricks. In the latter case, something that should be obvious isn't always obvious. In the former, this group is quite creative about using tools, and would be able to give options on a site not directly associated with PT.

Which brings me to the last point, whether for safety, economy, or whatever reason; PT often doesn't incorporate modifications we'd consider basic to the machines utility. On a non-associated site, we could list such things without legal concern, as well as have subheadings in the manual for maintaining or fixing the modified versions of the part in question.

So, I'd say full speed ahead. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I still want to know why PT thinks people are getting bad advice on forums! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
   / Manual #100  
Even if PT turns out the best manual in the entire tractor industry, I think this concept has merit on several levels:

Even if I have a tractor's owner manual, sometimes I still find an IT manual handy. Same with Motor [I think gone many years ago though] and Chilton and the like. Sometimes an slightly different perspective can really make for a moment of clarity.

I was twisting wrenches on farm tractors since I was 4 years old, but many PT owners aren't quite as familiar with mechanics. PT is good at knowing their machines, so will have a hard time making one readable to many users; further, as Blackwell noted and [except, the organization in mine doesn't make too much sense] I agree, it's nice having a book that puts the information straight - so PT wouldn't want to oversimplifiy it anyway.
Since, the proposed manual -by the users, for the users, of the users- would be web-based; I think it can be possible to meet the needs of both types of user.

PT always has the right tools for the job, and they also know all the little tricks. In the latter case, something that should be obvious isn't always obvious. In the former, this group is quite creative about using tools, and would be able to give options on a site not directly associated with PT.

Which brings me to the last point, whether for safety, economy, or whatever reason; PT often doesn't incorporate modifications we'd consider basic to the machines utility. On a non-associated site, we could list such things without legal concern, as well as have subheadings in the manual for maintaining or fixing the modified versions of the part in question.

So, I'd say full speed ahead. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I still want to know why PT thinks people are getting bad advice on forums! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 

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