"massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines"

   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #31  
No wonder people like Kubota. Probably the best at making as much of their tractors in house as there is. They have no one to point the finger at down the road nor do they often need to. This supplier swapping catches up to the tractor brand at some point.

You hit the nail on the head. Massey dealer around the corner Isa great guy and has 20+ units in stock at any time and none of them over 50 hp. Parts availability was a long-term concern to us. My Kubota dealer claims to be able to get any part for any machine Kubota has imported into North America since the started. That was a huge consideration for us as I have every intention of keeping my tractor for a very long time.
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #32  
No wonder people like Kubota. Probably the best at making as much of their tractors in house as there is. They have no one to point the finger at down the road nor do they often need to. This supplier swapping catches up to the tractor brand at some point.

I'd put Yanmar in that "Probably the best at making as much of their tractors in house as there is" category- they also own Tuff Torq and TMA (Transaxle Manufacturing of America). That said, the days of total vertical integration like GM used to do (Delco Remy, Harrison, Delphi, etc., etc.,) are probably behind us- it's cost prohibitive given the huge regulatory compliance burden and the nature of competition today. It's the reason GM and Ford are jointly developing a ten speed automatic for their pickups and rear drive cars and why Chrysler went to ZF for its eight and nine speed automatics. No doubt AGCO and Deere could develop their own small diesels and transmissions but it makes a far better business case to go to a small tractor specialist which is what Yanmar, Iseki, and Kubota are. John Deere/ Yanmar and AGCO/ Iseki have had long and pretty stable relationships ... I'd have no problem buying either one nor a Kubota for that matter. Other brands seem to be a different story and seem to change suppliers almost as often as the wind changes direction- reminds me of working on old Internationals. You'd tell the parts guy what year, model, and engine it was and he would want to know what brand of distributor, starter and carb it had.
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #35  
I have to wonder how many tractor manufactures there actually are out there ? In particular those manufactures that will build to spec then paint any colour and decal on any name ?
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #36  
Sorry, but by law GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc., supply parts for at least 10 years rather than at most 10 years.

SDT

No, 7 years max. They start with things like Gem modules (ford) fuel and trans lines (gm and dodge). Expecting them to supply parts for more than that when people demand a full redesign every 7 years is insane.
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #37  
No, 7 years max. They start with things like Gem modules (ford) fuel and trans lines (gm and dodge). Expecting them to supply parts for more than that when people demand a full redesign every 7 years is insane.

It will be interesting to see how long today's cars are supported.
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #38  
It will be interesting to see how long today's cars are supported.

Especially when you consider one thing .. . . In the days of metal parts . . you or I can make many of those parts if we have to . . One at a time . . . But how do you make plastic parts? And "printing" them might be a thought but durability of "printed" parts is very short lived and uv and temperature sensitive.

I believe our "disposable" product manufacturing concepts is going to create a very confused "products" world . . . In just a decade or two from now.
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #39  
Been thinking about this myself. For some reason I just can't see todays tractors still out working when they are as old as the 1950's machines that are still going.
Mostly because the new ones just aren't as simple and had way fewer parts.
 
   / "massey is not supporting their small utility tractor lines" #40  
Glad I sold my GC2300 last spring and kept the Kubota BX for this very reason. Just ordered a BX snow blower bracket this morning, had 4 choices of dealers online, plus two very local dealers. Had one choice online with Massey, and zero locally. Seems Bota stocks pretty much all parts goin way back with tractors. Even decals. See Ya Later, Massey!!
 
 
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