Massey nightmare continues

[MAN IN BLACK]

Just a few thoughts and comparison I guess to be fair. I also own an allis Chalmers 185 ( about 75 hp). I have plowed, disk, baled hay, etc. It is a real work horse, and it be. I will say the my massey ferguson 1531 engine has held up well, but is not power house I'd like (maybe I used the allis). The allis is a standard transmission, I don't think hydrostatic drive had been developed when the allis was made. I will admit that I was Leary of the hydrostatic drive. It has both spoiled me and held really well. My allis also has loader with a 7 ft bucket. Of course the allis will lift more and it should. However, the massey ferguson has and better hydraulic response time ( ie the speed of which the loader raises and lowers). The allis is really slow. The massey ferguson has good dependable hydraulics. Maybe if you had 5 acres and a garden this tractor maybe ok, but I don't feel it can hold up to the riggers the farm.

It is not design for the rigorous work you would expect of a farm tractor.
You bought a compact don't expect it to behave like a real utility farm tractor.
You should have bought either a 2600 serie then, or to match your old Allis a 4600 serie starting at 80hp.
The compacts IMO of any brand are not meant for real farming utilisation.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

The compacts IMO of any brand are not meant for real farming utilisation.

I've been saying that for years!

In the past, some here have got mad at me for doing so...

I call my little tractors "tinker toy tractors", you have nailed the reason why!

SR

 

[AxleHub]

Greetings Fellow Readers,

This is one of a few threads that may need to be judged a bit differently than the normal threads in my opinion.

If you notice in the beginning of this thread - as in a few others by the same OP - there seems to be a pattern. If you look at the first couple posts in this thread we are on - you'll notice repeated "repeats" of the same information said over and over and over again. There can be reasons why that might happen.

A. Age causing memory issues.

B. Jack Daniels visiting a little too often.

C. New medications that don't mix so well with other ones.

D. Some type of tragedy or emotional loss tightens the guitar strings a bit too tight for a temporary period.

E. Or maybe some business motivated reason against a specific company - layoff or other. (E is not like A thru D).

If you look at the writing of the persons posts on this thread or a few others - I'm not referring to the Manufacturer's name as the issue for my comments - its any part of the writing being stated and stated and re-stated yet again.

My point is - the writing appears to be an indication (in A. thru D.) - that "a battery is running down" for some reason and its not recharging like it once did when it was newer - I don't think its about a Manufacturer. And if its E., it could be for different motivations - but lets recognize the name was created just a few days ago and not before. There hasn't been any history - not even 3 weeks or longer ago.

"Something" has happened - and we don't know what it is - but in 1500 hours of use - we'd have seen some history years and years ago and there is none even weeks and weeks ago.

AxleHub

 

[MF283]

We'll always hear about the lemons or misuse.

Ronnie

 

[cdaigle430]

I've been saying that for years!

In the past, some here have got mad at me for doing so...

I call my little tractors "tinker toy tractors", you have nailed the reason why!

SR

Anyone whos says this has never worked on a farm. Worked on Tree farms, and potato farms all my life and we always loved our little compact and sub compact tractors-they are indispensable and mules. That being said you use the right tool for the job, your not going to use a subcompact tractor to haul a 60 inch brush hog for 100 acres, that makes no sense.
Same with your not going to use a d11 bulldozer to clear snow in your driveway daily, or a CASE II tractor to dig a 5 foot trench around your house. There is the element of common sense here....I only own 2 acres therefor ,y GC2410 is more than perfect for me even though I can afford a full size tractor. A full size tractor would never do most of the stuff my GC2410 could do.

Your comparisons are a moot point, they are not tinker toys and never will be. They have more horsepower than even the most powerful tractors from 50 or so years ago. No one gets angry about it but you should educate yourself on what a tinker toy actually is....like a radio controlled RC tractor....though some would argue they are not toys either.

 

[cdaigle430]

I have a 1531 massey ferguson compact tractor. It has cost me 10000 dollars in maintenance and repair last year alone. The pto was completely rebuilt last year costing 5500 dollars with a 12 month warranty. Last night I was mowing the road side with a 5 foot brush hog and here we go again NO PTO. Conveniently for agco the rebuild last right at 13 months. NEVER NEVER NEVER will I purchase another massey ferguson/agco products.

My brother has the same tractor, had the PTO rebuilt and cost him 8,000 usd. Was operator error because he forgot to size the new PTO driveshaft for his snowblower and it pushed everything inside. Took several months to repair....but he loves his tractor even today.

 

[MAN IN BLACK]

Anyone whos says this has never worked on a farm. Worked on Tree farms, and potato farms all my life and we always loved our little compact and sub compact tractors-they are indispensable and mules. That being said you use the right tool for the job, your not going to use a subcompact tractor to haul a 60 inch brush hog for 100 acres, that makes no sense.
Same with your not going to use a d11 bulldozer to clear snow in your driveway daily, or a CASE II tractor to dig a 5 foot trench around your house. There is the element of common sense here....I only own 2 acres therefor ,y GC2410 is more than perfect for me even though I can afford a full size tractor. A full size tractor would never do most of the stuff my GC2410 could do.

Your comparisons are a moot point, they are not tinker toys and never will be. They have more horsepower than even the most powerful tractors from 50 or so years ago. No one gets angry about it but you should educate yourself on what a tinker toy actually is....like a radio controlled RC tractor....though some would argue they are not toys either.

You miss the point entirely...
We're only saying that no compact or subcompact of any brand is built and design like a real utility ag tractor.
The frame is bigger, heavier, bigger hydraulic pump, bigger differential...overall heavier and sturdier machine period.
Not taking anything away form the compacts or subcompacts....different tractor for different needs, that's all !

 

[Deere Dude]

If I had that many problems in a 1500 hour period I would tell everyone about it, but I would sell the tractor the next day and move on and cut my losses. It isn't something simple like a run down battery. It sounds like some major stuff going on. I think he runs it like he stole it and got a lemon.

 

[Teachu2]

1500 hours of abuse takes a toll.

 

[Phillip w]

Interesting enough, I own an allis Chalmers 185. It is about 75 hp tractor and has served me well. I purchased the massey ferguson 1531 for lighter work. Mowing working in tight spaces around the barn etc. 31 hp should handle a 5 ft brush, a 4 ft would not clear the wheels on the tractor. My father has a John Deere 4100 about 22 hp and it plays with a 5 ft brush hog. His John Deere has out performed and been way more reliable than my massey. Interesting enough the dealer and agco only warranty the repair for 12 months. The agco representative said I had some hard decisions to make. (Really) Cut my losses and buy a John Deere or Kubota. Nothing hard about that except the money I poured into this massey ferguson compact tractor.