Maximizing Weight

SnowRidge · Feb 24, 2006

Of the top of my head: Under serious pressure, the lift arms would be in tension, while the top link was in compression from rotational forces. Going astern, it should be the other way around.

I think. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Spiffy · Feb 24, 2006

( Don't most loaders stay parallel with the front wheels weather the front end oscillates or not? Unless the axle oscillates. I'll have to get on my old cut and see what it does.) 

Some of the machines I'd call CUTs it seems fall under small AG or perhaps UT better according to concurent threads, so I may be off base. However, I every loader I've operated, is mounted to the tractor's frame while the front axel is pinned in the center. Thus you'd have to angle the whole tractor [the front end is such a small percentage of the weight] to angle the bucket. Ironically, there have been a couple occasions where I'd wished for the opposite then.

Spiffy · Feb 24, 2006

( I thing that puts a lot of tension on that link and it broke the casing that the threaded rod end screws into. I do think it was a cheapo and I'll try another one because it is handy to be able to adjust to different situations. )

That's where I was afraid of trouble; unless you find a real heavy duty one; I'm thinking a little reinforcement in that area would be good planning. Perhaps slip a collar over it and weld it in place.

RegL · Feb 24, 2006

( ( Don't most loaders stay parallel with the front wheels weather the front end oscillates or not? Unless the axle oscillates. I'll have to get on my old cut and see what it does.) 

Some of the machines I'd call CUTs it seems fall under small AG or perhaps UT better according to concurent threads, so I may be off base. However, I every loader I've operated, is mounted to the tractor's frame while the front axel is pinned in the center. Thus you'd have to angle the whole tractor [the front end is such a small percentage of the weight] to angle the bucket. Ironically, there have been a couple occasions where I'd wished for the opposite then. )

There you go fabricators. Build a bucket that you can tip side to side with aux hyd. That might be handy digging out hill sides to.

BillCroasmun · Feb 26, 2006

( "am I the only one to notice or experience a negative issue with it?" )

I have the exact same issue Chad. My gravel drive needs a little work. Right now I have a slight crown with "bumps" in the middle and some shallow "pot holes" in the tracks so there are a few places I dig in due to my bucket following the front section.

The technique I use for snow removal helps with this (leaving the front lip up a few inches and letting the bucket ride on the back). This works pretty good for snow removal but when there's ice and I need to bite in with the front lip I experience quite a lot of the corners digging in like you. This year I will have another load of rock brought in and hope that I can level it good enough that I won't have as much of this problem next winter.

Spiffy · Feb 27, 2006

Thanks Bill!

At least now I know I'm not nuts [at least in respect to this /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif ].

Perhaps, it will be another one of those 're-learning' things: "tractors operate that way, but PT is better this way." I've also considered a toothbar, which I think would help combat ice [not to mention all sorts of summer work], but it seems wrong going on the snow bucket (LMB) instead of my dirt bucket.

Oh, the quandries my feable mind creates for itself. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bob999 · Mar 1, 2006

I've also considered a toothbar, which I think would help combat ice 

I have used a tooth bar on a bucket with a skidsteer--about a 5000 lb machine. My experience was that when the ground is frozen hard that the tooth bar did't help much as compared to the bucket without the tooth bar.