MF 1742 Not Happy With It

[JWR]

I have mentioned this on other threads but there is little/no data on torsion with front end loaders. The industry does not test them in torsion. The Univ. of Nebraska tractor testing lab does not test them in torsion. I have been rough on my DL250 loader on a MF2660. Pryed stumps, dug up rocks, lifted way off center loads of mud cleaning springs out, back dragged hard clay, etc. Serious abuse can bend the loader frame or even break welds. (for the record I've bent mine but never broken a weld...) BUT in my view it should be very difficult to hurt a loader that was properly designed for the tractor it is made to fit. The idea of having to tip toe around off center loads and "corner lifts" is absurd. Use the d.... thing ! The loader either thrives in good health or it has no excuse for existence. Sure, it CAN be abused and you know darn well when you are abusing it with extreme forces that begin to twist the loader noticeably, tip the tractor partially, etc. But simply off center loads and corner lifts within the otherwise obvious capacity of the loader should not be of concern.

 

[Wellarmedlamb]

This is really concerning. I really like the 1736 (I'm considering a 1742) but the idea that the loader is this easy to twist does not make me confident.

Is the DL125 really this weak/flimsy?

 

[JWR]

I do not have direct experience with the DL125 but I doubt that it is all that flimsy.

 

[Phillip w]

I have mentioned this on other threads but there is little/no data on torsion with front end loaders. The industry does not test them in torsion. The Univ. of Nebraska tractor testing lab does not test them in torsion. I have been rough on my DL250 loader on a MF2660. Pryed stumps, dug up rocks, lifted way off center loads of mud cleaning springs out, back dragged hard clay, etc. Serious abuse can bend the loader frame or even break welds. (for the record I've bent mine but never broken a weld...) BUT in my view it should be very difficult to hurt a loader that was properly designed for the tractor it is made to fit. The idea of having to tip toe around off center loads and "corner lifts" is absurd. Use the d.... thing ! The loader either thrives in good health or it has no excuse for existence. Sure, it CAN be abused and you know darn well when you are abusing it with extreme forces that begin to twist the loader noticeably, tip the tractor partially, etc. But simply off center loads and corner lifts within the otherwise obvious capacity of the loader should not be of concern.

Generally speaking you better worry more about the front end under a tractor rather that the loader. Yes loaders can get sprung and torn up if your two hard on them. However, the front axle and front spindles won't hold up especially if you start putting counter weights on the back. This in not only the little tractors but the bigger ones. There have been a lot of front spindles broken on 50-100 hp tractors carrying, loading and feeding big round bales. Scrap my massey, it is a heap that don't count, but we busted two front spindle on a 930 case ( 70-80 hp) over about 15 years handling big round bales. So far haven't busted any on my allis Chalmers 185.

This is really concerning. I really like the 1736 (I'm considering a 1742) but the idea that the loader is this easy to twist does not make me confident.

Is the DL125 really this weak/flimsy?

I have mentioned this on other threads but there is little/no data on torsion with front end loaders. The industry does not test them in torsion. The Univ. of Nebraska tractor testing lab does not test them in torsion. I have been rough on my DL250 loader on a MF2660. Pryed stumps, dug up rocks, lifted way off center loads of mud cleaning springs out, back dragged hard clay, etc. Serious abuse can bend the loader frame or even break welds. (for the record I've bent mine but never broken a weld...) BUT in my view it should be very difficult to hurt a loader that was properly designed for the tractor it is made to fit. The idea of having to tip toe around off center loads and "corner lifts" is absurd. Use the d.... thing ! The loader either thrives in good health or it has no excuse for existence. Sure, it CAN be abused and you know darn well when you are abusing it with extreme forces that begin to twist the loader noticeably, tip the tractor partially, etc. But simply off center loads and corner lifts within the otherwise obvious capacity of the loader should not be of concern.

 

[sspc]

If I cant go into a pile of fill sand, lift on the corner and it twist's, whats the sense of having the tractor, might as well only grade a driveway with it, my old TC30. I did it many times, never had a problem. Whats bothering me is, lifting on the loader straight in, the tractor flexes and the fan hits the fan shroud

 

[TSO]

Massey switched to Alo-Quicke loaders with the new 17xx series tractors... For years they had been sourcing loaders from Soo Tractor (Radius Steel in Iowa). My 1648 & 1652 machines have the Soo loaders and I'm extremely happy with their performance and longevity. I've commented on this numerous times already, but to me, the Alo-Quicke loaders do not appear as robust as the Soo loaders.

With that said, I've used my tractors hard. I don't purposely try to hurt them, not purposely attempt off center lifts, but it happens. In the thousand or so hours I've put on my Iseki built Massey tractors, i can't complain one bit about their quality, construction, reliability, any of it. I'm sure that eventually I'll break something on it, but it'll most likely be my fault LOL

 

[k0ua]

Well not to bash anyone, but If I had a loader that the manual said to not load one side only, I would be trading tractors. I have done exactly that, thousands of times both with my current Kioti and former Kubotas, with no damage, no sprung loader arms or any problems with it. I have done a heck of a lot worse than uneven loading too. You often want to "corner load" (I had never even heard of that term before this thread) to distribute material on the side of a road or in a corner. Like I said, This is the first I have ever heard this could be a problem for some tractor loaders.

 

[TomSeller]

Had to bury a cow yesterday and dug the hole with the backhoe. Didn't have time to take the bucket off and put on the grapple so I chained two legs to drop her to her final resting place. One chain slipped off over the hole resulting in an instant 1200 lb corner load. Mine didn't flinch but it is rated around 3000 lbs. But even if it was rated at 1200 it should take that. Shiit happens and the loader should take it.

 

[kthompson]

I am not a fel expert as I proved last year twisting mine getting tree off my mother in laws house put there by Hurricane. It would never register to me you could damage a fel with rated load by where it is in the bucket. Digging with a one on the corner could understand. Do they also tell you what kind of load is safe? Like dirt evenly spread is fine but a large rocks are not safe as you can not spread it evenly in the bucket.

 

[Wellarmedlamb]

Obviously there is a "within reason" caveat to apply when using an FEL but I really feel like a partial load of sand on one end of the bucket shouldn't be enough to spring this loader.