MF1455, JD-5105 or TC-48

[scudbait]

Thanks

I appreciate the information. I guess my concern is weather I really need a utility tractor. My main tractor chore will be cutting brush, back blade work and finish mowing around the house, I'll probably make hay in the future too. The old saying is that you can never buy too much tractor. But I'm concerned is the getting a reliable tractor that is not too small or too big as to be impractical for simple yard work.

When I talk to dealers I here stories like;

1. The 1455 is all the tractor you will ever need, it has more HP than the JD or the NH tractors in ite class, the 451 is too much tractor for what you say that you need, but it has the most reliable engine ever made.
2. The JD5105 can't be compared to a TN-60/65, just compare the specifications such as weight, lifting power in the rear. It will compare more to a TC-48 or TC-55
3. The JD5105 is a JD and will be more reliable and have more resale value than any of the others. Additionally the JD5105 has wet cylinder liners which will make rebuild more economical years down the road when the time comes
4. Four cylinder tractor engines run smoother and will last longer than 3 cylinder engines due to less vibration. 3 cylinder tractor engines will out last 4 cylinders because they have fewer moving parts
5. Wet cylinder liners are more prone to leak coolent into the cylinders than dry cylinders liners or cast in block liners which have to be overbored or honed to be rebuilt
6. Stick with one of the Big 3 (Kubota, JD or NH), they will always be around.
7. Make sure to get 4WD and shuttle shift if you are going to be doing loader work.

I'm so confused and TBN members like yourself I am learning alot.

Thanks

 

[JayC]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Four cylinder tractor engines run smoother and will last longer than 3 cylinder engines due to less vibration. 3 cylinder tractor engines will out last 4 cylinders because they have fewer moving parts.)</font>

That don't make sense. That sounds like it is contradicting itself. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[Woodbeef]

Hey Scudbait,

I'd be interested in where you are getting your info from on the generalisation that just because the 5105 is a Deere it will be more reliable than the other brands........ Is this just from one dealer,or more?

 

[yellowsocks93]

In my experience a 4 cyl. idles and runs smoother than a 3 cyl. Comparing my dad's 5320(3 cyl. turbo) to my 990(4 cyl). My boss also told me that would be the case also. I don't know about the other stuff you heard but the Deere will last forever for sure! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[KiotiJohn]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( 6. Stick with one of the Big 3 (Kubota, JD or NH), they will always be around.)</font> Go back in time to the 70s. "Stick to the big two, like JD and MF, they will always be around." Make sense? I don't make hay, but don't you need a lot of tractor for that? Get you a large tractor, and a riding mower for the yard work. I don't cut my lawn with my CK20HST, but I could. I still use my HST lawnmower. I use the Kioti for the bigger jobs. John

 

[CMunger]

A Zetor/Century with a Kukje built engine has replaceable wet sleeves, this has been a little reported feature, but is a industry first in the compact utility line. No others tractors in the compact category have this feature. This may be the difference, down the road, when you have a problem, where it is still , the most economical way to repair instead of replacing the tractor. It is no suprise that Cummins chose this engine to use as there smaller
"A Series" engines, and this may be one of the reasons.
Chuck M.

 

[CMunger]

I think a 5105 has a Yanmar transmission/Differential with a John Deere engine and sheet metal.
5320 has a JD engine, JD 990 has a Yanmar engine, not a good comparison.
Chuck M.

 

[yellowsocks93]

Ones a 4 and ones a 3. There is a difference. Ok, fine I'll compare a bigger JD 7720 which I just drove to my the 5320 wow the 6 cyl 7720 idles really smooth! Since in the operating of the engine in the power stroke I guess you would call it 3 cyls are up and 3 are down. In a 3 cyl motor 2 are up 1 is down. Not as balanced as having a 6 or 4 cyl. where everything is equal in operation.

 

[scudbait]

I have been to 2 JD dealers and they tell me that JD are the standards in which all other tractor in the HP range I'm looking at are measured

 

[CMunger]

A 3 cylinder is naturaly balanced in the manner that it fires, a four cylinder is not, and that is why balancing shafts are use on 4 cylinders., 6 cylinders are also naturaly balanced.
Chuck M.