Midwest Hay Tools

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( How can you make a statement like this? Do you know for a fact who is employed by what manufacturer. I sure wish that I had a crystal ball that sees all and tells all.... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

if you had worked in farming field for 2 decades working days and nights by playing implements and tools,
if you had worked in manufacturing industry (other fields too) as a worker and as an engineer for years,
if you had educated engineers and also mathematicans at faculties for 10 years,
if you had done researches in practical, computational as well as pure theoretical fields for 10 years,

then, Junkman, you too would have gained an ability to look through the products of manufacturers, that is, through their cyristal ball mirrors to see how well equipped their factories are, how well qualified people working there, etc etc. Clear?

 

[Villengineer]

Listen Rip Van Winkle, how old are you anyway? I've added up your so called "resume" and you are the most computer savvy octagenarian I've ever met. Lets see the "score":
20 yrs "farming" + 10 yrs teaching + 10 yrs research + 4-5 yrs for your undergrad + 4-5 yrs for your first phd + at least 2 yrs for your 2nd phd + </font><font color="blue" class="small">( worked in manufacturing industry (other fields too) as a worker and as an engineer for years )</font> (we'll assume you can keep a job long enough to gain some experience, so this is at minimum 5-6 yrs) = about 60 years. Let's say you started this at age 18 since nobody puts their childhood chores on a resume. So that would make you at least 78. Round up to 80.
I'm having a real hard time believing you, in fact I'm not sure that I believe you even have the education you state you have. So where did you get your undergrad and advanced degrees? What were your thesis papers on for your advanced degrees? Where is your research published?
By the way, what's your beef with dealers, especially CCM? For someone who has made implications of designing, building, and selling implements you sure seem to be shooting yourself in the foot by calling dealers and manufacturers liers and trying in general to discredit them and their products. That's real bad business, not to mention just plain wrong.

 

[sweettractors]

<font color="blue"> if we had design problems it would have shown up </font>

Mark-A few years ago, When you were working for Edcor and calling on me as a salesman--I remember you telling me that all well designed wheel rakes should have, or eventually would have this updraft (shown below) feature to promote crop flow--The style shown in your picture will rake hay for sure--However--It will hold it back the even flow and let the windrow come thru in clumps--Many newbies to farming would not necessarly see this as a problem unless they had seen a well made windrow--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *New and Refurbished Used Equipment*

 

[HayDR]

Ken,
These rakes have the same design as Vermeer. See the picture. Call Vermeer, JD, & Tonutti up and tell them their rakes do not work,.. LOL.

 

[jimg]

Intersting you should be talking about this:
Last night was talking w/ a friend who used a wheel rake for one season. He said it made 'ropey' rows that didnt bale well. Dont know what make it is how how old.

 

[HayDR]

He likely was traveling too slow.

 

[jimg]

Thanx...Ill pass on the info.

 

[sweettractors]

<font color="blue">He said it made 'ropey' rows that didnt bale well </font>

jimg--Please check with him and Let us know what rake brand he has and the size and also does it have the extra throat clearance that most modern rakes have?--Ken Sweet
Sweet Farm Equipment LLC *30 Refurbished Sickle Bar Mowers in Stock*

 

[jimg]

OK...Im planning to see him again this w/e so I have a look and ask some questions.

 

[nomad]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Lets see the "score":
20 yrs "farming" + 10 yrs teaching + 10 yrs research + 4-5 yrs for your undergrad + 4-5 yrs for your first phd + at least 2 yrs for your 2nd phd + 5-6 yrs of worker&engineer in the industry = about 60 years. Let's say you started this at age 18 since nobody puts their childhood chores on a resume. So that would make you at least 78. Round up to 80. )</font>

You have much errors in your calculations. For example, if I mention this error, I think it will be enough to do your calculations again. Some university researchers (like I was) do researching&teaching at the same time. So, you should not have taken 10 yrs for researching and another 10 years for teaching seperately. Anyway, I'm not here to give my resume as it takes more than one forum page. I can say only this as it's related to our forum talk;
I started to sit in a tractor (it was MHarris) to plow, till, etc days and nights at 11yrs old like a real farmer. I was making money for myself at my 14 by custom plowing their fields of some other smaller farmers by working nights if during the school periods. I'm 40 now. If you aren't convinced about my research studies & teaching, open a topic (farm related not to go off-forum talk) where we can discuss techniques in detail. I'll be glad to talk/discuss anything if any professors welcome and participate the discussion.

If we back to the topic of this thread, I see (on the net of course) Sitrex is dominating the hay rake field in the world. But this will continue? Probably yes- but until Chinese rakes appear in the field. I've not seen any Chinese rakes yet. Anyone seen?