Shield Arc
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Off the top of my head I can't think of any dual shield wires that don't run on DCEP. But I can think of at least three flux core self shielded wires that run on DCEP. Most of us weekend warriors won't be running any of them. 
Mig gas Bottle Questions
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toxicjeeper
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Definitly brought up a good point Scooby..I may cut my loss's on this wire and just get a spool of regular soild core with mig mix gas..Either way i will keep the info on lease big tanks and owned smaller ones at hand when i call praxair..
Sheilded arc. welder is cv-300 with an ln-7 feeder with the serrated rollers. Wire size is .045. I am not in a high production welding enivorment( altho i can lay some serious weight when required with this welder). I mostly just build trailers, splitters, fix stuff and general fabrication but recently have needed to have cleaner welds for cosmetic reasons..
Sheilded arc. welder is cv-300 with an ln-7 feeder with the serrated rollers. Wire size is .045. I am not in a high production welding enivorment( altho i can lay some serious weight when required with this welder). I mostly just build trailers, splitters, fix stuff and general fabrication but recently have needed to have cleaner welds for cosmetic reasons..
Shield Arc
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I've run .045 dual shield with V-goove drive rolls before with no problems. When I looked at your welder, I could imagine you running 1/16 inch or bigger.
In your case, put that dual shield away, and buy some Lincoln L-56, and some v-goove drive rolls for your LN-7.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/welding/212146-mig-break-test.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/welding/237081-vertical-uphill-w-mig.html
In your case, put that dual shield away, and buy some Lincoln L-56, and some v-goove drive rolls for your LN-7.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/welding/212146-mig-break-test.html
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/welding/237081-vertical-uphill-w-mig.html
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toxicjeeper
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hmm..lots to think about now.. :thumbsup: Lots of good insight and help in this thread!
Shield Arc
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For general fab work you'd be hard pressed to find a better process than short circuit Mig welding with .035 wire. You can set your machine where it is just a tad cold for flat welding, and never change a thing and go right into vertical up welding. You should be able to build most projects without ever adjusting your machine!
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toxicjeeper
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Bite the bullet and leased a 150 cf tank for 70 bucks a year. Same price to fill a 150cf tank as it was a 50cf tank. ( think that was mention somewhere already here too..)The only tank i could buy at praxair was a 50cf and it looked pretty small.. Had a 44 pound spool of soild core wire in hand when i mention to the clerk that i had a ton of outersheild 71m and he said that was better than what he was gonna sell me when used with gas.. So i am gonna use it with about 50cfh of gas and see what happens..
Scooby074
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The tanks look small... cause they are :thumbsup::laughing:
Since your running Outershield i think you made the right decision. If you find your not using that much gas, buy a tank next year.
Since your running Outershield i think you made the right decision. If you find your not using that much gas, buy a tank next year.
Shield Arc
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That seems high to me. I can't find it on Lincoln's site, maybe there is some info in one of the boxes? I'd try 40 to 45-cfh tops. Or call / e-mail Lincoln.
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toxicjeeper
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Its under the adobe specs link recommends 40-50 cfh.. I got my wife to print out the voltage chart too for a reference..
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asse...Shielded-Outershield-Outershield71M/c3101.pdf
Shield Arc
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Oh I see it now, said the blind man.
I always liked dual shield, to me you have the best of both worlds. I was the supervisor on this project. I elected to go with dual shield to weld the 10-feet dia, 1-inch wall pipe hanging on the hook of the crane. 100% xray, I forget how many splices the guys had to make on that project.
I always liked dual shield, to me you have the best of both worlds. I was the supervisor on this project. I elected to go with dual shield to weld the 10-feet dia, 1-inch wall pipe hanging on the hook of the crane. 100% xray, I forget how many splices the guys had to make on that project.
