Mig Welding..

[dbdartman]

F960, all I know is the owner of the welder said I was running 200+ amps (I was just a little busy at the time ). Yes, there is porosity in the weld. We were running low on argon, didn't feel like swapping bottles. There's even more porosity on the other tube. I wouldn't worry about it much without the gussets there. With the gussets, I'm quite sure those welds will handle the near 600 ft/lbs of torque the engine upstream makes. Fill rod was something like 7/32" or 1/8" diameter, I think (pretty darned thick), & I went through 2 complete rods, plus about 4" of a 3rd. And, finally, I assure you, it was TIG welded. I learned back in the late 70's/early 80's the art of welding hot, welding fast, & cooling the puddle with the fill on 16g & 18g stainless sheet. BTW, that's an aftermarket Dana 60 rear with 1/4" or 5/16" thick axle tubes. I welded 1.25"-1.5" on the spring seats, then went to the other side, then took a 3 minute break to let things cool some.

Oh, I spent a short time at a gig welding U-haul trailer components (decks mostly, for their open car carriers). We were using divorced MIG welders (Aircio & Miller DC units) with output gauges. If the gauges were to be believed, I was typically welding those deck components at 275-300 amps. That required leathers, a hat, & ear protection! That job only lasted a couple months as i couldn't stand milking the jobs to keep the other (lazy) weldors happy.

Thanx for the critique. I'll always be the first to admit I know enough to get myself into trouble!

 

[digicamnut]

The adds say that with flux wire you can weld up to 1/2" material with the pro mig 180. Just wondering how it works in the real world?

Anyone got ideas on this one?

 

[bobodu]

Anyone got ideas on this one?

With proper prep,lots of wire and time it could be done...just like you COULD build a house with sewing pins. I hate marketing hype.

 

[toy]

I have been looking at a Hobart 210 iron man mig and the other day I saw an add for a Hobart 210 handler. I haven't seen the handler but it is lower in price. Is the iron man 210 that much better machine than the handler or are they about the same?

 

[yomax4]

What ever you buy,,,Look at the actual out put of the unit. I believe the Miller 210 and the Hobart 210 ( Both Owned by ITW corp) Only have an out put of 160 amps. Just dont be fooled by the name. The Thermal Arc 210 is 250 amps for the same price and has a 5yr warrranty.

FYI Thanks.
MM.

 

[toy]

What ever you buy,,,Look at the actual out put of the unit. I believe the Miller 210 and the Hobart 210 ( Both Owned by ITW corp) Only have an out put of 160 amps. Just dont be fooled by the name. The Thermal Arc 210 is 250 amps for the same price and has a 5yr warrranty.

FYI Thanks.
MM.

Is Thermal Arc and Thermal Dynamics the same co.? If so I have read only positive things about thermal dynamics plasma cutters, mostly cutmaster 38. I have a small fluxcored wire welder[century brand] but have been thinking of getting a larger mig with a brand name and also a plasma cutter but haven't decided which to get first. I would like to buy american made if possible and I believe thermal dynamics is usa made. I already have an ac/dc lincoln stick welder and like it a lot for thicker stuff. The plasma cutter I beleive might be my next buy, I talked to the welding supply co. locally and he seemed to push the cutmaster 38 but said that he could get the cutmaster 51 for me in a couple of days but he was asking about $500 more for the 51 than what cyberweld is asking has anyone had any dealings with cyberweld and if so what is your impression of them? If I buy locally I would have local support but if I buy cyberweld I don't know about their support. I am totally green when it comes to plasma cutters and don't know if local support would be that important. If you have a problem locally you can look face to face with the support or repair people but with cyberweld I'm concerned with calling them only to get a machine and after you figure out which number to push you get someone that halfway speaks English or speaks so low that you can't hear them. I bet that I'm not the only one that has wrestled with these concerns,and that is why decision making is hard. Thanks for any advice I will continue my research and maybe by the time I make a decision maybe I might be able to get both at the same time. Any one that has a thermal dynameics plasma cutter how do you like it and what size is it? Thanks again Toy

 

[wushaw]

Look at Indian oxygen supply for the TD 52. last I looked they were going for @1400.00.

Thermal arc and Thermal dynamics are not the same but are controlled by one big company Thermaldyne.

I read somewhere the Thermal Arc is made in Italy.
I looked at the TA 215 at Northertool a few weeks ago and it looked like a decent machine, I was suprised to see it was a 250amp unit. My only concern is parts and stuff if and when needed.

 

[Sully2]

Anyone got ideas on this one?

It WILL...but it WONT do it in a single pass! You'll make pass over pass to get a 1/2" thick piece welded..and even at that its doubtful the weld will be as strong as you want on something that thick because the typical 120V wire fed welder doesnt put out enough real VOLTAGE at the weld puddle

 

[Sully2]

I have been looking at a Hobart 210 iron man mig and the other day I saw an add for a Hobart 210 handler. I haven't seen the handler but it is lower in price. Is the iron man 210 that much better machine than the handler or are they about the same?

I have the HH210 myself. If you have SEEN the HH140 and or the HH187..then you have SEEN the HH210. Look almost 100% identical from the outside....that is until you pick it up.... My HH140 weighs about 48 lbs...the HH210 weighs about 75..

The comparison between thr two give the IM210 the advantage IF..IF you are running WIDE OPEN all the time. A tad more top end voltage and a little better duty cycle...BUT Im the type that if I really need MAX output ALL THE TIME...Id buy the IM 250 instead

 

[Sully2]

Is Thermal Arc and Thermal Dynamics the same co.? If so I have read only positive things about thermal dynamics plasma cutters, mostly cutmaster 38. I have a small fluxcored wire welder[century brand] but have been thinking of getting a larger mig with a brand name and also a plasma cutter but haven't decided which to get first. I would like to buy american made if possible and I believe thermal dynamics is usa made. I already have an ac/dc lincoln stick welder and like it a lot for thicker stuff. The plasma cutter I beleive might be my next buy, I talked to the welding supply co. locally and he seemed to push the cutmaster 38 but said that he could get the cutmaster 51 for me in a couple of days but he was asking about $500 more for the 51 than what cyberweld is asking has anyone had any dealings with cyberweld and if so what is your impression of them? If I buy locally I would have local support but if I buy cyberweld I don't know about their support. I am totally green when it comes to plasma cutters and don't know if local support would be that important. If you have a problem locally you can look face to face with the support or repair people but with cyberweld I'm concerned with calling them only to get a machine and after you figure out which number to push you get someone that halfway speaks English or speaks so low that you can't hear them. I bet that I'm not the only one that has wrestled with these concerns,and that is why decision making is hard. Thanks for any advice I will continue my research and maybe by the time I make a decision maybe I might be able to get both at the same time. Any one that has a thermal dynameics plasma cutter how do you like it and what size is it? Thanks again Toy

Ive bought from Cyberweld and have nothing but good things to say about them