Mini Hay Balers

[cowboydoc]

Well you know what assuming does, LOL. No that isn't true at all. Most all of the commercial protein blocks for some time only have vegetable protein in them. Mostly from oats, soybeans, etc.

We never check for BSE because we know where all of our feed has come from. Our tubs are made at the local mill. All of our feed besides the tubs we grow, grind, and bale ourselves. We have never resorted to the animal protein use in our operations.

 

[jimg]

OK, thanx. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[DAP]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Horse people.....I hate to sell them hay. They, for the most part don't have the slightest inclination what good hay as it relates to horses is. Not only do they, in general, buy hay for their animals that is too high in alfalfa content, they want dairy quality hay for a bargain basement price.)</font>

Yo Daryl, whats with all the self loathing ?

Horse people can't ALL BE BAD, CAN THEY? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

If I ever intentionally WANT to start a flame war, YOU DA MAN! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[slowrev]

Back to the origional topic. I saw a few small balers at the Louisville show yesterday, and they were expensive! Why do they cost so much when they are less than 1/4 of the weight/materials as the stamdard size balers ? They seem to be almost the same cost as a new large baler. For $14,500 I could just buy more land to use my bigger baler on /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Woodbeef]

hey Ed,

Have you seen the tumblewheel set up yet for portable fencing?

I think what you mean about the problems with dried cherry leaves is tannins not cyanide.

 

[VirginiaEd]

Cowboydoc,

Sounds like you have a good strong operation. The amount of acres required to rotational graze cattle in different parts of the country and the various marketing schemes are what make it all so interesting. Your approach of banding together, even as a family related operation is a good idea. I know several producers in Missouri operate that way. Strength in numbers.

Today was nice and somewhat mild here. We'll be starting field work in a couple weeks. You comment about your need to feed stock because of the snow reminded me of what an old fat cattle producer told me one time. He said, "Feeding cattle fescue and expecting daily gain isn't much better than feeding them snowballs."


Woodbeef

I read about the tumbleweed hub fencing system in one of the PRFA of BC fact sheets, but am not familiar with the details of the system. I'm a member of the Virginia Forage and Grassland Council (VFGC) and I don't recall anyone here discussing that system. Maybe you can give me a website that outlines the system.

Regarding cherry tree poison, it is hydrocyanic acid and not just tannins. In addition to the dangers of the leaves in the autumn, I thought you might be interested in the following excerpt from the West Virginia Extension Service.

Robert E. Pitts, Veterinarian WVU Extension Service, May 2003, Livestock Management.

…Another consideration in the spring is the weather. Severe storms with high winds may knock down tree limbs. The leaves of wild cherry trees are one of the most toxic sources for cattle. In the fresh state, the leaves are not toxic. After they begin to wilt, they are a source of hydrocyanic acid, which may cause death within an hour if enough is consumed. Bark and twigs from the cherry tree are also toxic. If the animal is not found dead, early symptoms may include rapid breathing, muscle incoordination, bloat, excitability, and laying down. The blood and mucous membranes of these animals become bright red. If symptoms are observed in time, treatment includes intravenous injections of sodium nitrite and sodium thiosulfate. Sodium thiosulfate may also be given orally after the initial treatment.

Here's a link to more information.

Ed

 

[higgy]

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Horse people.....I hate to sell them hay. They, for the most part don't have the slightest inclination what good hay as it relates to horses is. Not only do they, in general, buy hay for their animals that is too high in alfalfa content, they want dairy quality hay for a bargain basement price.
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I agree, for the most part. Horses are designed to eat grass, not high protien alfalfa. I is hard to founder a horse on pure grass hay, not the case with alfalfa.

I our area there is a good market for grass hey with a very large rich community 70 miles from here where people have more $ than brains, knida nice.

Dane

 

[Woodbeef]

hey Ed,

Here ya go....the Tumblewheels are from Gallagher. http://www.gallagherusa.com/postsportable.htm

 

[VirginiaEd]

Woodbeef,

Thanks for the Gallagher link. Those Tumbleweed units look useful. Clearly a faster way to move cross fences. I'll attempt to track down a local dealer and give them a try.

Thanks Again,
Ed

 

[phillipl]

I own a Star 1031 square baler and I pull it with a JD 4200 21 PTO horsepower. I can bale the smaller square bales that still weigh 80 lbs if desired. I have also operated the mini 860 round baler with the wrap system.

I baled 80 bales with the 860 wit outany problems. I bought the small baler cause I have 20 acres of coatsal Bermuda in Central Texas to target the female horse owner. So far bale sales have been great. The round bales are great for those who have planty of hay in the barn and still can make one more cutting of hay. They leave the mini round bales in the feild and feed those first. The mini bales so good for storing out side and covered with a tarp. You can get the Mini in Paige Tractor Paige TX. for under 9K.