Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax

   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #21  
Using the 50mpg as the benchmark, it needs 1 gallon per hour at 50mpg. That translates into 17 hp, or 12682 watts. Unless their car is a lot smaller, it's going to need 17 hp as well.
 
   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #22  
cp1969 said:
Using the 50mpg as the benchmark, it needs 1 gallon per hour at 50mpg. That translates into 17 hp, or 12682 watts. Unless their car is a lot smaller, it's going to need 17 hp as well.

Could you show the math on that one? What efficiency did you use for the engine/transmission? My knowledge of gasoline energy is low.

My 16 horse power (8 KW) generator uses about 2/3 of a gallon per hour running lighly loaded.
 
   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #23  
BobRip said:
Could you show the math on that one? What efficiency did you use for the engine/transmission? My knowledge of gasoline energy is low.
The 17 hp comes from the fuel burn rate of 1 gal/hr (50mpg @ 50mph). A gallon of diesel weighs roughly 7.1 lbs and a specific fuel consumption of .42 lb/hp/hr tells us that the engine is producing roughly 17 hp. (These numbers, btw, are all biased in favor of the electric car.) So, if you're going to travel in the same car but with an electric powerplant, it must also produce the same amount of power--17hp.

My 16 horse power (8 KW) generator uses about 2/3 of a gallon per hour running lighly loaded.
Lightly loaded is the key. Although the engine is rated at 16 hp, you are not pulling 16hp out of it when it is lightly loaded.
 
   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #24  
I'm not saying I believe in the Cap, but I do believe that the way a lot of the things we have today have been found is by changing some of the rules, formulas, or whatever to something new, and then we have something new again.????????
 
   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #26  
cp1969 said:
The 17 hp comes from the fuel burn rate of 1 gal/hr (50mpg @ 50mph). A gallon of diesel weighs roughly 7.1 lbs and a specific fuel consumption of .42 lb/hp/hr tells us that the engine is producing roughly 17 hp. (These numbers, btw, are all biased in favor of the electric car.) So, if you're going to travel in the same car but with an electric powerplant, it must also produce the same amount of power--17hp.

Lightly loaded is the key. Although the engine is rated at 16 hp, you are not pulling 16hp out of it when it is lightly loaded.

I agree, when lightly loaded is was probably less than 3 horsepower. Thanks for the calculations.

Anyway you look at it the capacitor will require many changes. If it is real, I think these changes will be doable. Besides if you take 15 minutes to charge a battery, that's not too bad. It sure beats 8 hours or 1. You don't have to actually use the fastest charge possible. No consumer is going to wait at a gas station for 8 hours, but 15 minutes might be acceptable. That 15 minutes would be for a full charge and so the average wait would be lower. My bladder is not good for 500 miles, so at 60 mph, ninety miles would be about right (between stops) and that would be about 3 minutes of recharge.
 
   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #27  
If battery powered, capacitor powered or otherwise rechargable vehicles become popular, I see special charging parking spaces (similar to handicapped spaces) at Walmart, Home Depot, shopping malls, etc. where you get your car charged back up while you are busy shopping thus wasting no time waiting for it to charge.:)
 
   / Miracle Capacitor for Elec. Car or Hoax #28  
tallyho8 said:
If battery powered, capacitor powered or otherwise rechargable vehicles become popular, I see special charging parking spaces (similar to handicapped spaces) at Walmart, Home Depot, shopping malls, etc. where you get your car charged back up while you are busy shopping thus wasting no time waiting for it to charge.:)

I saw a few of those in California a few years back. I have seen outlets in Alaska for keeping your engine warm. They were not high powered, but might put some charge in over night.
Let's see:

18 Amps X 120 volts = 2160 watt hours per our times 8 = 17 Killowatt Hours or about half charge on small battery. That's something.

Another advantage of capacitors is they are not affected by low temperature (at least the super capacitators on the market today). This was a big weakness for regular batteries.
 

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