Missing 777

[texasjohn]

I know. It's such a pain.

First is a fact. Then somebody tries to put it into a context, to determine its implication. Then somebody concludes an action to take, based on it.

Sadly, something happens next. Could be another fact. Or a different somebody determines a different context or implication. Or a different conclusion leading to a different action.

Sometimes, even, an assumption is taken to be a fact, then extrapolated forward in time and place, then repeated imperfectly, then someone becomes impatient with the details and summarizes it all for ears which do not have the patience or intelligence to take in all the details. Then the impatient ears assume that they have been maliciously misled by a governmental conspiracy which is withholding something. But they don't know what...perhaps because there never was a what to know.

I mean, the very presence of nothingness is proof enough!!

facts are changing daily. what gives with that!

 

[texasjohn]

And, that's a fact...think about it.

 

[MossRoad]

There's a person on CNN (can't remember her name, Maria S. or something) doing consulting on the story. I think she's now an attorney for airplane crash victims, but was formerly in some government role concerning aviation.... anyway, she keeps saying that the problem is people are coming up with theories, then trying to use the facts to prove them, rather than waiting for all the facts and then coming up with the truth. She's one of the few voices of reason in this whole thing.

 

[ovrszd]

What 'facts'?? Theories have changed daily.

This is probably the truest post on this thread.

 

[buickanddeere]

Here is a question . Why are the authorities only admitting to using visual satellite data? And why is nobody asking about space based radar?
They can find a floating beer can from space . If there was floating metal instead of floating plastic fishing nets. The radar gets a far stronger reflection from metal.
Here is info on a 2nd generation bird which is very capable.

Radarsat-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[MossRoad]

Here is a question . Why are the authorities only admitting to using visual satellite data? And why is nobody asking about space based radar?
They can find a floating beer can from space . If there was floating metal instead of floating plastic fishing nets. The radar gets a far stronger reflection from metal.
Here is info on a 2nd generation bird which is very capable.

Radarsat-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My guess is that that part of the ocean is so barren, remote and infrequently used that both military and civilian satellites are probably not going over that area on a regular basis. And most satellites like that are constantly orbiting the earth, only go over the same area once every X days (where X is determined by its owner). Its not like its in geosynchronous orbit over the same spot all the time.

Also, given the example that you linked to, that particular satellite has a normal resolution of 100m, meaning it will only see things about 100 yards long when doing wide swaths. If they cut it down to "beer can mode" so-to-speak, it would take many, many passes over the huge area to get high-res images of the open ocean. Then someone has to interpret those images, etc.... and that particular satellite it looks like completes one full mapping of the earth every 24 days. It can't just park over the area and start scanning.

So, if they suspect an area has something of interest to look at, they can certainly zoom in on that area the next time the satellite is scheduled to make a pass over that area. But that is one of the limiting factors on satellites.

 

[tcartwri]

Very very discouraged by the media's coverage of this whole story. CNN in particular.

 

[MossRoad]

Yeah. Watch the BBC or other foreign news orgs and you don't see the emotional newsfotainment that you get with CNN.

 

[texasjohn]

Why did you say "they can find a floating beer can from space?" Nothing in your reference gives such detail of Radarsat accuracy.

Why are you inventing "facts?" When done in the context of this thread which seems to abhor misinformation or misstatements, it is quite revealing.

Here is a question . Why are the authorities only admitting to using visual satellite data? And why is nobody asking about space based radar?
They can find a floating beer can from space . If there was floating metal instead of floating plastic fishing nets. The radar gets a far stronger reflection from metal.
Here is info on a 2nd generation bird which is very capable.

Radarsat-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[buickanddeere]

Why did you say "they can find a floating beer can from space?" Nothing in your reference gives such detail of Radarsat accuracy.

Why are you inventing "facts?" When done in the context of this thread which seems to abhor misinformation or misstatements, it is quite revealing.

Read the specs . They are posted.