Mitsubishi MT180HMD Noisy Hydraulics

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Hi
Im hoping the hydraulics experts out there can help me please.
I have a Mitsubishi MT180HMD mini tractor with front end loader. I bought it about a year ago and since its parked for winter down here in the southern hemisphere this issue slipped my mind. Ill be using it again soon so I thought I had better drop a note on the forum.
My main problem is a noisy hydraulics system. The noise is a whine.

When tractor first starts, whining noise can be heard from hydraulic reservoir area (ie. transmission). Vibration can be felt on the hydraulic pipes under seat (not sure if its suction or pressure pipe). Once it is warmed up, the whining tends to go away until it comes under load from a hill. Whining noise changes pitch on steepish climb. Whining noise does not seem to be aggravated by operation of 3PL or front end loader.

HST oil level is correct and is about 100 hrs old (previous owner did last oil change and filters).

When using the front end loader - it is slow raising but fast lowering. When tipping the bucket it starts off at good speed then half way it stops. A few seconds later it will continue to tip but extremely slow initially then speeds up until full tip angle of bucket reached. Its really annoying as it lengthens the working time considerably.

I must admit, I am a little disappointed in it's 4x4 capability. I expected a little more grunt on the front axle and a sense of pulling power when going up a hill for instance. Similar to when you engage 4x4 on an off road SUV.

Total hours on the tractor is 1500. I have log books and it seems to have been regularly maintained.

All the above may be related to a single problem or separate. I just don't know.

Appreciate any learned opinion on the hydraulics please.

Cheers

Edit: Forgot to add. When going up a hill HST power decreases as whine increases
 
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   / Mitsubishi MT180HMD Noisy Hydraulics #2  
Even though he said he changed the filters, check the sump filter if it has one .

Install a hyd gauge in the hyd pressure line and check pressure.

Is the fluid milky looking?
 
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#3  
OK thanks JJ.
No. Fluid is clean. Will look into the others. Thanks
 
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Check all the quick couplers for the loader.
 
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#5  
Thanks Leejohn. Unfortunately no quick couplers on this one. I have checked all connections though. Next step will be to get hold of a gauge and check the pressures.
 
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#6  
I have the new filters on order and hopefully will be here on the weekend. I have also got hold of a full workshop manual which describes the hydraulic systems in detail. There is indeed a sump filter (screen) and I suspect that could be the culprit.
Ill report back once the work is completed.
Appreciate your input. Thank you.
 
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Good news to report
Today I drained the hydraulic system, replaced the spin-on filter and located and removed the internal screen filter. I guess you could call that a sump filter JJ. It was all sludged up. I could not believe it had got that bad in the short time I have used it. I always like to look for the best in people I deal with but the guy who sold me this was full of BS that's for sure. Anyway, I could not locate a replacement screen filter so I very gently washed it in detergent like the maintenance manual says. There was very slight damage so I will replace it as soon as I can find one. This new oil can act as a flushing oil. I guess an investment in the long run.
I really appreciate you JJ and LeeJohn for taking the time. I have much more confidence now and developing a rudimentary understanding of hydraulics along the way.
Thank you and best regards.
 
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   / Mitsubishi MT180HMD Noisy Hydraulics #8  
Wow, perfect thread for me to jump on.
I just posted a thread about my MT180 and hydraulic whine noise.

Mine is 2WD and no loader.

Tell me, the screen filter you talk of: That is by the right rear tire? Kind of a football shape flange? Can take it out and screen filter will come with it?
Then the big automotive type screw on filter is under the seat on right side?
I want to change my filter(s) and oil.
The dip stick plug that is on main chassi right between your legs is the oil you are changing? How much oil is in there, how much should I buy. Can see the oil and gears when I take the dipstick plug out.

Thanks for any more help.

CooHead
 
   / Mitsubishi MT180HMD Noisy Hydraulics #9  
guess I should also ask: where did you buy parts for this machine? I need a headlight
 
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Hi CoolHead,
firstly yes on all the locations and descriptions of the filters. The "screen filter" on the right down by the wheel is quite delicate so if keeping then clean it carefully and do not use a brush (per the owners manual).
Mine held about 16ltrs of oil. However I ended up having to change my oil 3 times before the problems completely went away. This was quite expensive but im glad it did it. The screen filter I purchased from the UK ended up being too small. I was pretty annoyed about that. In the absence of another option in Australia, I just cleaned mine and reinstalled. Parts are getting tricky to get. Almost impossible in Australia at least but im pretty sure there are a few sources in the USA. Search these forums. I have a request in with Mitsubishi Agricultural Machinery in Japan about parts but have not heard back yet.
I need a couple of headlights too.
Hope this helps.
Regards
 

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