Mobil 1 oil

Anonymous Poster · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Mobil 1 oil (buttinski!))

Trescrows,

Thanks for offering your hand, I'm sure all will recieve it warmly.

Now about those "faces". ...try this:

When you want to put in a smile like this /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif ,
1. hit the space-bar.
2. type an "open parenthesis" like this [ .
3. type "smile", but WITHOUT the quotation marks.
4. type a "close parenthesis" like this ] .
(NOTE: There should NOT be any spaces between the parenthesis marks and the word "smile".
5. hit the space-bar.

You are finished,... continue with the rest of your message as usual.
The "smiley face will appear when you "preview" your post, so you can see if it came out allright.
(What you type will look like this EXCEPT, there will be NO spaces anywhere inside the Parenthesis marks; [ smile ] .

There are other words to type (in place of "smile"), that will make other "faces" appear, but the procedure is the same.

The other words (blush, cool, laugh, frown, etc.) can be found somewhere on this site, but, first things first... try it with this one.

We've all had to learn this, /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif ,

Good luck,

Larry

GlueGuy · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Buttinski! (Mobil 1 oil)

Tres Crows: Apology accepted & returned in kind!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif If you start this thread again (or if it gets back on track /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif), I promise to stick to it!

Larry: Thanks for the lesson and the cool head /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Steve: Yes, testing is required, but I suspect that the cost to do an adequate job of it is beyond all but the deepest of pockets.

All: Thanks for a great forum.

The GlueGuy

gsxr1100 · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Buttinski! (Mobil 1 oil)

GlueGuy - As you stated ,"This is especially true on aircraft engines (for example a new TTIO540 Lycoming I was just reading about costs about $68,000). However, the numbers they ran on different oil change intervals versus the cost of an overhaul was so lopsided as to be ridiculous."

This is incorrect. Most engine manufactures (ie. Boeing, Pratt & Whitney, Sikorsky,) use synthetics in their engines and controls. NASA also uses synthetics in their applications. I don't knows about older aircraft but new ones like the JSF, Commache, F22 do. I don't know about the F117A or the B1 or B2 (200+ million)but since B1 has GE I would think so.

By the way I am am pro Amsoil because of the poor (very poor) test results I had with Mobil 1.

*This is not a slam but what I think and have seen.

Thanks
Mike

Roy · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Buttinski! (Mobil 1 oil)

F22 Raptor, F-117A Nighthawk, and the Lockheed Martin version of the Joint Strike Fighter (not that other contender's)… There's some real power (but then again, I am very bias on this subject /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif)

Roy

GlueGuy · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Buttinski! (Mobil 1 oil)

This is incorrect

Perhaps I wasn't clear there. What I was referring to was the pros/cons of long change intervals. Some aircraft owners migh extend oil changes to 100 hours (for example) instead of 50, or even 25 hours. The study I was referring to indicated that even if you use a synthetic (or semi-synthetic) oil, it is cheaper in the long run to have short intervals

IOW - Regardless of the type of oil you save money by changing your oil more often. I think this was the point I was trying /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif to make.

Also, I think the dynamics of a turbine (turbo jet or turbo prop) are very different from an internal combustion engine.

I still believe the other issue stands, and that is that "most" synthetics have an issue with suspending lead (which is a very big deal in the TTIO540, and other high performance IC aircraft engines).

I can dig out my old issues of Light Plane Maintenance if anyone is interested in the reasoning behind the lead problem.

The GlueGuy

Anonymous Poster · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Buttinski! (Mobil 1 oil)

Mike,

If you haven't posted it already, would you tell us about your tests of Mobil 1, and the "very poor" results?
(Sorry if I missed it before!)

Thanks,

Larry

JATO_RaT · Mar 20, 2001

Tres Crows, no offense taken, it was my fault for not fully understanding your post. I do understand your concerns with an oil choice and using just one. I have chosen to go with several different ones myself. Rat...

Bird · Mar 20, 2001

Re: Mobil 1 oil (buttinski!))

TresCrows, if you'd like to use the smiley faces/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif, frowns/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif, etc. click on the FAQs at the top of the page and read the section on using markup, and you, too, can smile, frown, or be shocked/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif.

Bird

gsxr1100 · Mar 21, 2001

Re: Buttinski! (Mobil 1 oil)

Larry- No problem. You never missed it because I never posted it. Well I few years back I tried Modil 1 in my Powerstroke diesel and after 3,000 miles I had it tested. The TBN was low along with viscosity for that many miles, Fe & Alu were high. Ca and P were average. I then got to use Amsoil with over 10,000 miles and the readings were damn good for 10K on oil. the TBN was very high, Ca & P were also high (good protection) and the alu and Fe were down. All readings were better then Mobil 1! This is why I don't like Mobil 1. Mobil 1 also does not do the extended drain intervals anymore. I wonder why?

So this is why I like Amsoil. If there is a better oil I would use it. I like LE but for the price and it being a petro oil seems kind of high to me.

Thanks
Mike

Edited by burnickas on 03/21/01 08:04 PM (server time).

banjobj · Mar 21, 2001

TresCrows, I have been using Mobil 1 for years in cars, trucks, lawnmowers and other small engines. I will use the Delvac after my TC 21 D is "broken in", because of my own research and info obtained off this and other sites.
Ben