Mobil 1 vs Amsoil Case Study

[Dargo]

Expensive or inexpensive equpiment BOTH benefit from using the best available lubricants. Granted, expensive equipment is more expensive equipment to replace (that's why it's expensive to start with, I guess).

But even though I only own a cheap dozer, I can't afford to replace it. So I maintain it with the "best" fluids and parts so I don't have to.

Logical?

Take care.

Nope, not logical. I disagree. Please explain to me, in detail, why very few manufacturers require or even suggest the use of high line synthetic oil. Now I do understand that you've made it very clear that you have no faith in multimillion dollar studies, seem to doubt they exist, but I'd like to hear your precise reasoning why you shouldn't take over GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota and Honda. All of their manuals give me specific grades of lubrication to use and specific time/mile intervals as to when to change my oil. Apparently they suffer from "flawed logic" in your opinion.

As opposed to you, I don't get all upset when someone disagrees with me. I feel no need to have my ego stroked. I can wake each morning and debate with myself about whether I should brush that one tooth in my upper palate or the one in the lower. I guess I figure myself as not smart enough to understand the exact chemistry involved in the refining process and I've not invented one single internal combustion engine. With that limited knowledge, I must do the best I can and go by what the actual engineers who designed those products profess. If my last few vehicles ran 300k miles utilizing what the manufacturer of that vehicle recommended for maintenance, that's good enough for me.

If you want to download owner's manuals for a few hundred vehicles you can have "enough material" to argue about for hundreds of posts. You can contact all the manufacturers and let them know who you are and why they suffer from flawed logic because of how they suggest maintaining their machines. I have only stated what they state and it's obvious you rather strongly disagree with me. But, you know what, I'm just fine with that. You can even call me a Lemming for following what the manufacturers suggest for maintenance. That won't even bother me. Have fun now.

 

[rtimgray]

You still won't answer the Yugo question, will you? Why? Because you, like Mike, would admit that both machines benefit from the use of the "best" oil. Of course, you won't now, obviously.

That's it.

This is not a discussion about synthetic vs. dino, manufacturer recommendations, etc. It is is about logic.

You said if you don't have the best equipment, why bother using the best oil? That's what you said, right? I say that is flawed logic. I say that's illogical because most equipment will benefit from using the best oil. I will leave it to you and the studies and manufacturers to dictate what the best oil is.

I'm going out a limb and gonna say that manufacturer's specify a given grade and type of oil based on their designs and testing. Let's say you use the oil that is within that range. You are using the best oil, right? But instead, since you say if the equipment (like my Yugo or dozer) isn't the best, it doesn't need the best oil. Why doesn't it? Why will less than optimal equipment equipment not benefit from the use of the best oil.

It would be nice if you could just answer that one question.

But I'm not holding my breath.

Take care.

 

[Dargo]

I assume that you are just being humorous, which is fine. Humor is good. Although I don't agree with you on much, I don't take you as being stupid. Unless I'm wrong, I'm quite comfortable you can answer your question just fine on your own without anyone else helping you as to your "question". I have better things to do than explaining basics and obvious things to you. That's likely why nobody else wants to play your game.

 

[SPYDERLK]

It would be nice if you could just answer that one question.

See? --- I repeat.
larry

 

[rtimgray]

I assume that you are just being humorous, which is fine. Humor is good. Although I don't agree with you on much, I don't take you as being stupid. Unless I'm wrong, I'm quite comfortable you can answer your question just fine on your own without anyone else helping you as to your "question". I have better things to do than explaining basics and obvious things to you. That's likely why nobody else wants to play your game.

I'm merely playing the game that you started. Now, I guess you are going to take your ball and go home. But I'm just like that Chinese dude playing fantan at the end of the world -

I shall finish the game (I think that's a Young Guns quote, but I'm not sure).

I suppose your answer above is the best I'll get on my rather simple question.

And I think it provides a fitting answer to anyone who has followed this thread this far.

Take care.