Montana 5740C

[bigmcdermott]

Nice picture?

 

[Dave5264]

I got a 5740C too April 2008 it now as 104 hours on it.
I just love it.
Had a Ford 8n, Ford 1600, Zetor 5245.
The Montana is a powerful modern tractor.
I have not complaints. The dealer is good.
The only problem is the loader attachments fall off when cold if I put down pressure on them.
The dealer is coming to swap out the attachment mechanism. Their is an upgrade.
The front tires were swapped. now the back ones are cracking, he said he would have them changed.
The Montana was the best deal tractor around. John Deere wanted $15000 more for a similar model.
The cab is great ac and heat, great for blowing snow. I don't care if it blows back.
The Zetor cab one had to take off the doors or die in the summer heat.
Pleased in Northern Ontario. Finally a new tractor I won't have to wrench for quite a while.

Did you get it From Bob in Magnetawan ? Great Dealer

 

[Dargo]

The Montana was the best deal tractor around. John Deere wanted $15000 more for a similar model.

I know this is the Montana section, but I think people ought to be at realistic. I shopped Zetor (and posted about them in a positive manner), Mahindra and Montana as well. To say that a similar John Deere is $15,000 more is just plain silly. That is unless you found a Montana dealer to sell you your tractor for about $15,000 complete with cab, A/C and heat, XM radio, air ride seat, 84" Skid Steer bucked (weighs about 700 pounds) and an FEL.

Believe me, I look for the best deal for my money just like the next guy. Some of these totally off the wall stories about how many tens of thousands less XYZ tractor is than a John Deere, New Holland, or Kubota and is a better tractor just gets a bit crazy. Let's keep it at least close to being honest.

 

[LD1]

To answer the PTO question I believe it has to do with limiting the max rpm of the pto as well. If you had a tractor that made the 540rpm at say 2500 rpm, if their was another gear that would allow 540 at say 1500rpm, people would abuse it and run the pto in a higher gear and above the 1500rpm. Therefore spinning the pto at about 900rpm, which is more than 540 implements are designed for. Yea they make 1000rpm pto's, but they take a different style shaft, as to not get them confused.

On a side note, some of the old 8n fords with the sherman tranny have muntiple PTO gears.

The one that my father has has 3 ranges L-Mid-H. Low will do about 12 MPH in 4th, Mid will do about 18, and High will do 25mph. Low is the 540 Rpm PTO, High will do about 1100rpm. Just from experience, mowers and bushhogs sound like they are comming appart at that speed. We only know this by mistake and forgetting about being in high range after a road trip. First thing after starting the tractor was to engage the PTO to raise the mower (no live hyd's), and if the last trip was in high, you know it as soon as the pto was engaged.

 

[chh]

I know this is the Montana section, but I think people ought to be at realistic. I shopped Zetor (and posted about them in a positive manner), Mahindra and Montana as well. To say that a similar John Deere is $15,000 more is just plain silly. That is unless you found a Montana dealer to sell you your tractor for about $15,000 complete with cab, A/C and heat, XM radio, air ride seat, 84" Skid Steer bucked (weighs about 700 pounds) and an FEL.

Believe me, I look for the best deal for my money just like the next guy. Some of these totally off the wall stories about how many tens of thousands less XYZ tractor is than a John Deere, New Holland, or Kubota and is a better tractor just gets a bit crazy. Let's keep it at least close to being honest.

Actual quote last year between a MF 573 2wd. cab, air, and loader(MF quick attach bucket and spear) and a Montana T7074 4wd, cab, air, loader(with skid steer mount bucket and hay spear) showed the MF to be $8000 more sitting side by side on the same dealers lot. Neither one is available with XM or air ride though. The Montana does have 2 opening doors though whereas the MF only has a door on one side. I did buy the Montana over the MF at that price.

 

[matt21]

I believe the reason most tractors have the PTO geared for such high engine RPM is they try to achieve peak horsepower at the 540 RPM.

While I understand that there may be some applications that peak horsepower may be desired or even required while operating the PTO, most applications don't require peak horsepower to run just fine. However most PTO powered implements expect to be operated at 540 PTO RPM, like mowers and tillers and don't perform nearly as well when operated at a slower PTO RPM.

It amazes me that all these nice fancy tractors you see now days haven't caught onto this. It wouldn't be hard for them to put a 2 speed gear selector on the PTO. HIGH would set the 540 RPM at peak horse power, like it is now. LOW would be less, say 1,750 tractor RPMs give or take a little, to achieve the 540 PTO RPM.

I would love to have that option on my Montana 4540. The LOW gear would be perfect for pretty much all applications I use the PTO for, like finish mowing. As it is now I have to run over 2,000 tractor RPM's to get the blade speed up enough for a clean mow. I have enough power to slip the belts on the mower at 1,500 rpms....

James

Actually a lot of the tractors you see today do have a 2-speed PTO. The standard is the 540 and the 2nd is a 750. It's called economy PTO. When using a light implement you switch to Economy PTO and drop your rpms to whatever your tach says to run it at. It saves a lot of fuel when you can utilize it. I used an 80hp Valtra last year that had it. And this was about as stripped down of a tractor model you can get. Just a barebones workhorse.