More trouble for the Duck Boat.

   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #211  
Well, a true friend is someone that will help you bury a dead body in the middle of the night, and would even have the machinery to do it with.. :)

- 40 acres of pine trees in sand. Check.
- backhoe. Check.
- bags of lime. Check.
- no electronic devices on person or in car. Check.
- Tyvek suits and vacuum with hepa filter. Check.
 
   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #212  
- 40 acres of pine trees in sand. Check.
- backhoe. Check.
- bags of lime. Check.
- no electronic devices on person or in car. Check.
- Tyvek suits and vacuum with hepa filter. Check.


At least, that's what I told my daughter's first boyfriend right after I showed him my NRA marksmanship awards and a picture of a target I shot at 600 yards ( I lied, but he didn't need to know that).
 
   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #213  
^^^^^
To paraphrase a recent President; "I have a backhoe, and I know how to use it!" (I'm not sure what that has to do with duck boats, but also don't see how a dead guy who wasn't even the pilot caused 26 other people to die.)
 
   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #214  
Exactly. Sam Walton one of the richest men on the planet, often visited his stores looking just like any other Northwest Arkansas farmer. And seemed to prefer to dress that way, and kept his Northwest Arkansas ways. You never know.

You never know.

Learned that decades ago. You just do not know the other person. This can go either way, the person can be rich, a hero, famous, or a violent thug. You just do not know.

There used to be a billionaire in South FLA who drove around in a 15-20 year old station wagon. I always wondered if he had security following him or if he was really alone. One day I was driving through one of the cities down there and passed his office building. On one side of the road were tall office buildings. His office was on the other side of the road. His office was an old house and the yard had been covered in shell rock for parking. Thousands of people drove by that house office every day and I bet most did not realize a billionaire was in the building and the old station wagon out front was his.

Used to work with a guy who was building robots which were on granite slabs. He was often rather dirty. :laughing: Very few people knew he was a LRRP in Viet Nam.

There is a century old hardware store near where we used to live. The store used to be rural, just a small cross road, and surrounded by farms and woods. At this point almost all of the farms have been converted to subdivisions. The farmers would go into that store and sit on the benches around the wood stove and shoot the scat. My wife used to go talk to them because they reminded her of her grandfather. The farmers had been selling off their land for years and were millionaires. :D But anyone walking in would not realize who they were or how much they were worth.

My father in law was in the 1st Special Forces group which we did not realize until he had died. He had always said he was the youngest Green Beret until recently and he was in the first special forces group. The thing was, the word first had a couple of meanings. He was in the 1st Special Forces Group but he was also in the first cadre of members of the 1st SFG. I did figure this out until his funeral. He did not go to college but he was very educated in a variety of subjects, not just stuff he learned in the SF. :D He somehow had picked up knowledge of Indian and pre Indian artifacts. Never knew how he came to know what he knew. :confused3: He also grew up in eastern NC and knew the people who owned the Fort Fisher which is a state park now. He had permission to dig on the site and he dug up rusted bayonets, live shells, some quite big, rifles, and one Union soldier. Just talking to my FIL, nobody would know what he had accomplished in life. He was something else.

Sometimes you just don't know...

Later,
Dan
 
   / More trouble for the Duck Boat.
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#215  
More indictments:

Charges were filed Thursday against two more employees of a company that owns a duck boat that sank on a Missouri lake in severe weather last summer, killing 17 people including nine members of the same family, federal officials announced.

Curtis Lanham, the general manager at Ride the Ducks Branson, and Charles Baltzell, the operations supervisor, were indicted by a federal grand jury on Thursday and faced misconduct and neglect charges, according to the U.S. attorney's office. The 47-count indictment was unsealed and made public Thursday after their initial court appearances.

The captain of the duck boat that sank, Kenneth Scott McKee, was indicted by a federal grand jury in November and has faced 17 counts of misconduct, negligence or inattention to duty by a ship's officer resulting in death.

McKee, 51, was accused of not properly assessing the weather before or after the boat went on the lake near the tourist town of Branson and allegedly failed to tell passengers to put on flotation devices as conditions worsened.

The amphibious vehicle entered Table Rock Lake near Branson on July 19, 2018, even though there were severe weather warnings. People on board from Missouri, Indiana, Illinois and Arkansas were killed.

Three young children and the husband of Tia Coleman, who were vacationing from Indiana, died. The other people killed included two couples from Missouri; an Illinois woman who died while saving her granddaughter's life; an Arkansas father and son; and a retired pastor who was the boat's operator on land.

Several lawsuits have been filed on behalf of victims and their survivors.

Baltzell, 76, of Kirbyville, got onto the duck boat before it departed and directed McKee to conduct the water portion of the excursion before the land tour because of the approaching storm, the indictment stated, adding that at no point after that did Baltzell or Lanham communicate with McKee about the growing intensity of the storm, including that wind gusts of 70 mph were predicted.

The vessel's certificate of inspection issued by the Coast Guard in 2017 established rules and limitations on when it could be on the water. It stated that the boat "shall not be operated waterborne" when winds exceeded 35 mph and/or wave heights exceeded 2 feet.

According to the indictment, Baltzell, who was responsible for dispatching to the boat while tours were taking place, wasn't even on the same floor as the weather radar viewing screens were located because he was conducting closing duties.

Lanham, 36, also was accused in the indictment of failing to create training and policies for monitoring severe weather and allegedly allowed others responsible for monitoring the weather to be distracted by other tasks.

The indictment said Lanham helped create a work atmosphere "where the concern for profit overshadowed the concern for safety."

In July 2018, a mechanical inspector told Fox News he warned the company about massive design flaws and dangerous safety issues almost a year before the disaster.

He said he sent the company a "2-to-3-page fleet inspection report" as well as 24 checklist reports and "as many as 20 photos for each duck" he inspected in August 2017.

In the report, he cautioned that the boats' engines -- and pumps that remove water from their hulls -- might fail in bad weather. In rough conditions, water could get into the exhaust system, and then into the motor, cutting it off. With the motor off, its pump for removing water from the hull would not operate.

The Branson operation was owned by Ripley Entertainment at the time of the incident. Ripley Entertainment spokeswoman Suzanne Smagala-Potts said the company was cooperating with the investigations.

"We are committed to doing everything we can to help and support the community of Branson and those impacted by this accident," Smagala-Potts said in a statement. "While the United States Attorney has decided to bring criminal charges as a result of the accident, all persons charged are entitled to a strong presumption of innocence until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We have and will continue to offer support for all of our employees as this process moves forward."

She said the company continued to work with the surviving victims and relatives of those killed "and have reached settlement agreements with many individuals and families, and we continue to work with others."
 
   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #216  
Oh, goodie, now the Feds are fighting each other:

NTSB: Coast Guard Ignored Duck Boat Safety Proposals

The National Transportation Safety Board says the Coast Guard has repeatedly ignored safety recommendations that could have made tourist duck boats safer and potentially prevented a Missouri accident that killed 17 people.

Associated Press Nov. 13, 2019

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   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #219  
They say it's not under Federal authority since it's not a 'navigable waterway'. Yet it's part of the White River that flows through AR and MO out to the Mississippi and was created by a dam built by the Army Corps of Engineers. As far as I can see, it supports interstate commerce at least in the tourism area.
 
   / More trouble for the Duck Boat. #220  
They say it's not under Federal authority since it's not a 'navigable waterway'. Yet it's part of the White River that flows through AR and MO out to the Mississippi and was created by a dam built by the Army Corps of Engineers. As far as I can see, it supports interstate commerce at least in the tourism area.

No locks on the dam.
 

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