more wonderful neighbors...

JimR · Feb 6, 2006

Your new neighbors are trailer trash. Treat them like they deserve. The first thing to do is call the sheriff and make them remove their trash. If they don't, then place it in their driveway so they can't miss it. I would erect an 8 foot cyclone fence with concetina wire on top. Along the edge of the wire plant Poisin Ivy. It will climb the fence and make a great dense cover that they won't dare to mess with twice. Third suggestion, I can't mention here but it would involve a great fire.

Highbeam · Feb 6, 2006

That sounds like war. The problem with bamboo or eves poison ivy is that it spreads and can backfire. If they ever move the mobile out and the new neighbor is nice you will want to remove this war wall, and that would not be fun. It is awful hard to pitch garbage over a full height fence either way, so if they manage to get the garbage over it will be hard for you to throw it back.

I hate lousy neighbors but a good fence is the best thing. On one hand, don't let them chase you away from your own place, they will have won but on the other hand this feud may ruin your pleasant attitude and the only way to fix it is to leave.

DUMBDOG · Feb 6, 2006

I do not know what kind of zoning you have there, but where I come from there are laws on how close to the property line that you may place a building. I would also contact the sheriff regarding trespass and destruction of property.

JimR · Feb 6, 2006

( That sounds like war. The problem with bamboo or eves poison ivy is that it spreads and can backfire. If they ever move the mobile out and the new neighbor is nice you will want to remove this war wall, and that would not be fun. It is awful hard to pitch garbage over a full height fence either way, so if they manage to get the garbage over it will be hard for you to throw it back.

I hate lousy neighbors but a good fence is the best thing. On one hand, don't let them chase you away from your own place, they will have won but on the other hand this feud may ruin your pleasant attitude and the only way to fix it is to leave. )

Poison Ivy can always be killed with sprays if he ets a new neighbor. As for trash coming over the top. I'd put it back in his driveway, every single last piece of it. But first I would take photos of it and call the sheriff. Nobody deserves to be stuck aside of slobs and trailer trash like like.

rox · Feb 6, 2006

Backup the horses...
Before oyu come down on the neighbors with a sledghammer, calling the cops etc. suggest try getting to know them.

Did you see the neighbor property owner throwing the cement blocks on your property? You never know they couold have had a young son or son in law, somebody other than them throw their discards over by you. Could be they were not watching and they didn't like it eaither and jsut have not had time to reclaim their trash.

How about a bar b que, get to know each other before you do anything about their trash. Their trailor is perment anyway. Can you get a low cost trailor and put it 20ft form the lot line? In that way they will see the issue and experience it. Over time the both of you might be able to work it out, even though technically 20ft does meet code, that you work it out for better placements of your perment housing.

If he is within his right at 20ft not much you can do about it except try and win him over as a friend and neighbor and then work on issues once you know him better.

You might ask him casually, "Oh by the way did you need those cement blocks? Some how they ended up over on my property. If they don't need them you might ask, "Well do you want to mvoe them together, what do you suggest we do with them?" let him come back with an answer.

Try not to be discouraged on the way this has started and instead focus on getting to know them. A few cement blocks can be dealt with, it is not the end of the world.

shepherd · Feb 6, 2006

put up a barb wire fence then get a tempertamental(sp) bull and post a sign that says if you dare to cross tis fence you will be charged! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif hope it turns out for the best

EddieWalker · Feb 6, 2006

I'm pretty much a black and white type of buy. I know there's plenty of you who see things in grays and different colors and would like to hope for the best in a situation like this, but ask yourself this question. If you were the owner of the trailer and lets pretend you didn't make the mess and wasn't there when it was made. Would you just leave it there on your neighbors property?

See how simple it is. Make every excuse in the book for their bad behavior, the fact is that they are responsible for the damage and mess created and they have chosen to do nothing about it.

If they cleaned it up, apologized, or took responsibility of any kind, than I'd say deal with them, make friends and work it all out. Since there is no evidence to support this, then we must come to the conclusion that they are trouble, will remain trouble and things will always be trouble with them.

Even if you plant the best screen in the world to stop from seeing them, what will that do to what they do on his land? Will it stop them from dumping, tresspassing or destroying his land in the future? Even if it does, what can he expect from them on their own land? Who wants to live next do a garbage dump?

Sell, take your losses and don't look back. Life is meant to enjoy, not fight.

Eddie

bmac · Feb 6, 2006

Life is meant to enjoy, not fight.


Eddie, you are such a softie. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif How about he gets himself a big dozer and moves the trash pile back onto the neighbors property. And while he's at it, just continue with the dozer until the trailer is about 300 yds away from the property line.

Seriously, you are right on target here. What's the saying? You can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse? And you surely don't want to invest any more into this property in hopes of turning trash into treasure with this neighbor. So I agree with the "sell and find another piece of property" advice. However, with any property you buy, be it in a subdivision or out in the country, problem neighbors are a possibility. But if you get a big enough parcel and position your house far enough away from all property lines, the impact of a bad neighbor lessens considerably. I'm thinkin' about 1000 acres would be good.

JerryG · Feb 6, 2006

Eddie made a good point.
A short story. A few years ago, my cousin sold some land that bordered ours. There wasn't a fence between the two properties. One day my mother saw a man walking around in our adjoining field. She stopped to talk to him. She found out that the realtor had told him that the field was his. The realtor finely bought the land back from the man. The man honestly didn't know that that wasn't part of his property. It cost the realtor. Maybe the man in the trailer honestly thinks that is part of his property. Remember a good fence makes good neighbors.

JimR · Feb 6, 2006

( Backup the horses...
Before oyu come down on the neighbors with a sledghammer, calling the cops etc. suggest try getting to know them.
)

This doesn't always work. I met my problem neighbors. He seemed like a really nice guy. Even asked if he could clean up the brush along my wall to make the place (HIS PLACE) look better. The he took and inch by driving a 30-40 ton excavator over my propertty and stone wall to access his land instead of driving down his driveway with it. Then he took a yard by tearing down my wall and putting 8-10 feet of his perimeter drain pipe on my property, which I so happily removed and rebuilt my wall with my time. Now I find two more perimeter drain pipes and flooding to boot. NO, I'm sorry, getting to know your neighbors with some folks is like giving them the right to do as they please with your property. If you want to stop a Butthead, treat him like a Butthead. Post your property and have him arrested for trashing it.