3-Point Hitch Mother nature hates me.

   / Mother nature hates me. #11  
OK I'll do it. If the tree did not go where you thought it wood you need to learn how to cut a tree. Trees don't go where they want to they go where you tell them to go. Maybe you did not intend to tell it that but you did. It sounds like you cut the hinge and told the tree to do what it wanted to. I used to have trees go everywhere too and then a neighbor who was a retired logger saw me cut a tree and It scared him enough to teach me how to cut a tree the right way. I see people that don't know how much they don't know that brag on their skill with a saw and it scares me, but you can't tell someone who already knows. Please find an old logger and pay him if you have to and learn how. A tractor is a cheep lesson. Last weak a 19 year old logger that was a friend of my sister in law died when a tree fell on him. His time to learn is over.
 
   / Mother nature hates me. #12  
Ed of all trades said:
OK I'll do it. If the tree did not go where you thought it wood you need to learn how to cut a tree. Trees don't go where they want to they go where you tell them to go. Maybe you did not intend to tell it that but you did. It sounds like you cut the hinge and told the tree to do what it wanted to. I used to have trees go everywhere too and then a neighbor who was a retired logger saw me cut a tree and It scared him enough to teach me how to cut a tree the right way. I see people that don't know how much they don't know that brag on their skill with a saw and it scares me, but you can't tell someone who already knows. Please find an old logger and pay him if you have to and learn how. A tractor is a cheep lesson. Last weak a 19 year old logger that was a friend of my sister in law died when a tree fell on him. His time to learn is over.

Even experienced loggers are not 100% in placing trees, especially dead ones.
 
   / Mother nature hates me. #13  
Sorry to hear about you mishap. I cut a tree two years ago and it turned. Missed my quad and landed right on top of my Stihl MS192TC. Saw was a total loss. I now move everything out of range.
 
   / Mother nature hates me. #14  
If I sound like a know it all, forgive me. I grew up logging part time and have seen too many men hurt or worse. As I said a 19 year old friend of some of my family died last week. He was a pro, logger and he made a mistake. I just hate to hear someone say you never know where a tree is going. If you watch what you are doing you do know and you know where it will go if something goes wrong. The key is knowing, and watching. Guys please pay att. and if you don't really know what you are doing find out or don't do it. I don't want to read a post that you are hurt or worse. Again sorry if I offended anyone.
 
   / Mother nature hates me. #15  
A tree turning/twisting like that is called a barber chair. Very dangerous, worth keeping an eye out for. Sometimes all the experience in the world can't control physics. No one knows whats going on inside or at the top of a tree. Wind, one side heavier then the other, natural lean, etc all play a factor.
 
   / Mother nature hates me. #16  
My limited experience tells me standing dead wood is a whole different thing to deal with compared to living timber.

Even having tied off timber with cables etc. to assure how they will fall doesn't always work out how you want.......
Don't ask how I know that one........... Barber chairs and kick outs are always a danger anywhere.

Keep safe.
 
   / Mother nature hates me. #17  
Ed of all trades said:
If I sound like a know it all, forgive me. I grew up logging part time and have seen too many men hurt or worse. As I said a 19 year old friend of some of my family died last week. He was a pro, logger and he made a mistake. I just hate to hear someone say you never know where a tree is going. If you watch what you are doing you do know and you know where it will go if something goes wrong. The key is knowing, and watching. Guys please pay att. and if you don't really know what you are doing find out or don't do it. I don't want to read a post that you are hurt or worse. Again sorry if I offended anyone.

Hopefully it wasn't me that gave you that impression. I said no one can be 100 % certain on where a tree will land. 99.9% maybe but that .1% is what keeps the fear alive and is what you are calling something going wrong. Live trees are much more predictable. Dead trees are different and the hinge points are sometimes brittle or rotten.
 

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