mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires

   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #51  
many years ago I bought a coats 20 20 machine, simular to this one, http://www.aetechnologiesinc.com/Coats 2020 08 (3)doc size.jpg
I have used it many many times, some times 4 to 6 times a day, changing the rear tires on tractors is a lot more work, I just use bars, and bought a air pump off of Ebay a number of years ago, for the transfer of liquid ballast, I finally took the ballast out of the tires it was tearing up the rims more than desired, (I would just pump it into 55 gallon drums, and used a hydraulic hose for a suction hose), and when the tire was fixed would pump it back,
I also bought a bead breaker, "Bead Cheata", 5500 Bead-Cheata [Shoup Manufacturing Company]

on really tough tire, that were mounted 30 to 50 years ago, I have used the forks on the tractor and push them down lifting the tractor off the ground,
I had one old tire a 1953 tire that finally blew on the old 6x6 truck, I worked on that with the tractor for close to 3 hrs, finally cut the tire open and then took a grinder with a cut off blade in it to cut the bead into to release it the tire, the tire flap had rusted on to the rim, so tight that it would not compress and so I could not get the tire down to remove the ring off the rim,
after getting the ring off, I finally got the flap loose, and a new tire and tube on, and chained the rim up and got it seated and set, it was a mess,

one trick on tractor tires that have badly rusted rims, and will potentially damage a new tube, after cleaning any loose rust off, use duct tape and wrap the rim to provide a smooth surface on the tube contact area, (saw our local coop do that), and it may safe having to replace a rim that is rusted, if the strength is not compromised by the rust.

I bought one of the slide hammer type bead breakers, and have not been overly impressed with it, it may work on the non safety rim tires like a 16.5
and the new truck tires,
but the old truck tires or tractor tires, that have been on for some time they are not worth much, they help when used, with the cheata to help work around the tire, some time I would like to get another cheata so one could use two in pairs, on tough tires, on the old 1952 fork lift my son ran a pipe through the tire, it was mess getting the bead on that broke loose, I had bought a new, used tire, military 14 x 20, and had it on hand but the work was getting it off,

one of the best things I have found, is the company called "Gensoco aircraft tires" Home
I have them on the pasture pickup, it is only used in the pasture, there were time I would have 4 flats in a day on that with reasonable new LT truck tires on it, I have the recapped aircraft tires on it, and have not had one flat on it in close to 6 years, just put aircraft tires on the front of the loader tractor,
and plan on replacing all the farm tires with them as they need them if they have a compatible size, just getting tired of tries that are flat and have no substance and fall apart in just a few short years,
one more thing if they say there X number of plys there real plys not rated,
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #52  
BHD changing the rear tires on tractors is a lot more work said:
BHD,
I never had a problem breaking the beads with the backhoe, or getting the front bead off the rim, It's that back bead that gets me. I've got one out back I started 2 yrs ago, got disgusted after 2 hrs and it's still laying there partly disassembled. It's a spare for the backhoe and someday I'll need it. You've obviously done a lot of them, any tricks you can pass on for that back bead?
Thanks,
Smiley
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #53  
to break the beads on the rear tires, I do use the "bead cheata" it is a manual version of the hydraulic units most tire companies use, like I said at time I would like to have two of the units to work a larger section off the rim,
they clamp on the rim and then you run the screw and it pushes a foot down in to the tire normally pushing it off the rim, but if the rim is rusted up some times it is just a B!tch to get off, I would like the hydraulic bead breaker unit, but the cost is more than I can afford,

and then use the bars to work the tire off the rim, a pair of vise grips helps as well, to keep the tire off or to keep it from slipping and working back on or off when if the rim is on the tractor you can raise and lower the tractor with the jack to help gravity to help work the tire on or off the rim,

my SIL uses a handy man jack as a poor mans bead breaker, but puts a short 1/4 bolt in the base of it it helps keeps the base from slipping when he uses it for a bead breaker, and usually jacks up the car or tuck with the jack on the tire,

and some times one can use the bucket of the loader or forks to help if it is really tough, to break the bead,

I do not know IF I gave you any ideas or not, hope so,
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #54  
then use the bars to work the tire off the rim, a pair of vise grips helps as well, to keep the tire off or to keep it from slipping and working back on or off when if the rim is on the tractor you can raise and lower the tractor with the jack to help gravity to help work the tire on or off the rim,

I do not know IF I gave you any ideas or not, hope so,

Maybe I'll try putting it on the backhoe, so raising it up and down is easy and try to work it that way. Maybe with the solid platform the tractor provides, it may be easier than fighting it on the ground.
Thanks,
Smiley
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #55  
I used the loader bucket for years, until I got a backhoe. It works better because of better visibility.
I have an old manual tire changer that had a spring loaded pin that popped up into a lug bolt hole to prevent the rim from spinning while removing the tire. It wasn't long enough for many modern wider rims, I made a longer pin but it wouldn't take the force and bent, so wound up with a J bolt stuck up through the base of the changer, through a bolt hole, with a spacer, washer and nut to hold the wheel in place.
Smiley

I would love a back hoe. Ain't got one. Shoulda bought an excavator when I had the cash.... Awesome toy!

Anyways, FEL works fine for everything I have had to peel off a rim, so far.

Now at my ole age, the "implement" I wish I had was some 20-something young "buck" who coulld work all day, like I did when I was a young buck!

Gettin old sucks, 'cept fer the stuff ya learn, part........ seems nobody gives a darn though.
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #56  
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #57  
May seem kinda cheesy compared to all the real tools that one can bring to bear, but I use my log splitter and a chunk of 4x4 post to break beads loose. :D

Works like a charm. You have the ability to greatly control how much or little pressure you want to apply. :thumbsup:
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #58  
Between this thread and one, Tire Bead Breaker, that I started in the trailer section, I am motivated to fabricate a tire changer. Yesterday I got some left over metal and today I will start cutting. If it turns out good I will make an adapter for my smaller wheels.

I will see how this project turns out.
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #59  
>>> TUBE PROTECTION <<<


One oft over-looked point that I will point out :

EVEN ON NEW STYLE "SINGLE-PIECE" DROP-CENTER RIMS, whenever using a tube, a FLAP/LINER is STILL necessary. :)
 
   / mounting & dismounting your own tractor tires #60  
Didn't know they were still around for Tractors.None of mine have had them from the factory since 1980.I haven't ever had problems with the inside against the rim either.
 

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