Moving the air intake

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ponytug said:
On the other hand, the gensets use several different engine families. I can imagine that you were alot closer, and probably in a relatively enclosed space. :)
Not to mention that was over 30 years ago. The gen sets were in their own metal building. They were rated at 60 KVA, and at least one was running at all times.

It was LOUD in there. :eek:
 
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Peter.. Oh yeah, the turbo. I can only imagine the overheating issues that I would face... And the money...

We had a stupid and very expensive situation happen this week in LA. A pipe broke while we we up north. The entire house flooded for more than 24 hours (we are on a slab so the house turned into a giant bathtub). The house is all hardwood floors so now it looks like an indoor skate park with all the warping. It is insured, but we have to move out for over two months and I need to stay in LA for work so no going back home. ... They found a trace of mold so now the whole house has to be gutted (my house in Washington is held together with mold near as I can tell).

Today the movers are here.. I am burying myself in the back office until the last minute...
Bleck is all I can say. So I look at google earth and through Iphoto at pictures of my tractor and my property and I dream, dream, dream....

Carl
 
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Funny story. My first Deutz experience was a tractor at a summer camp where I was working. It was ~80-100Hp.

We had the mother of all storms come through, spawning 70+ tornados in the area and ripping out power. With 55 kids and staff, we had to keep the refrigerators and freezers running, so we borrowed a PTO driven genset from one of the staff who happened to live where they had power. For two days, we had the tractor running for hours at a time to provide lights for evening activities and to keep the food cold. It was amazingly loud.

At dinner, it occurred to me that although the genset needed 540rpm to run, and the tractor had a 540 PTO setting, it was a European tractor that had both a 540 & a 1000rpm PTO option. So, I could shift it into the 1000rpm (European) PTO setting and throttle it back until the PTO was running at 540.

It must have cut the noise level by two thirds, not to mention the fuel savings. I'd have felt smart, if it hadn't taken me two loud evenings to think of it.

The power didn't come on for a week, so we ran the tractor a fair bit.

SnowRidge said:
Not to mention that was over 30 years ago. The gen sets were in their own metal building. They were rated at 60 KVA, and at least one was running at all times.

It was LOUD in there. :eek:
 
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I had a vacant house waiting closing after being verbally sold to a friend. Some vandals broke into the house and cut the Queen sized waterbed in the master bedroom. The house also had wood floors over concrete, with some parts covered again by carpet. All of the floors lifted (Parquet squares), and since the house was vacant with the air off, mold got rampant. Six months later they finished the house and since my friend had waited patiently with no flack about the "damages" to the house, I agreed to sell it to him at the original price.(Which was on the low end anyway) He literally got a new house for his money. I probabbly could have put it on the market for $30K more than we agreed, but never considered it. He made out, and I kept a good friend.
If you were doing the floor removal (which your not) I would offer to send you my floor stripping machine. It removes wood and tile floors faster than 3 people can haul the debris out of the way.
David from jax
 
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Thanks for the offer. I felt pretty alone in all of this, but as the story gets out I hear happens a bit more than I thought.

A director whom I work for told me of his vacation house in the Caribbean that had a pipe break and no one found it for 7 months. The stories he told of having mold growing the way it was made me shudder...

Then of course, there is the other story from another director who built his dream home in Jackson Hole. He and his agent and their respective families decide to fly up. At the last moment the director has to stay for a couple additional days in LA, but his agent flies up. They get into the house, and realize that the pipes have frozen. The agent calls the director, the director says this has happened in the past, just go downstairs in the basement, there is a propane torch. Just run the flame along the pipe close to the wall it exits and it will break free.

3 hours later the director gets a call from his alarm company, followed about 5 minutes later from his agent, then from the police and fire department....

Burned the house to the ground...

Agent and director still friends.

Anyway, hijacking the thread.
 
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The air intake where it enters the turbo on my JD2555 is pointed to the rear. A simple boot makes it elbow across the motor, and a 4' long pipe hooks into the air filter casing in front of the radiator. As long as you allow for sufficent volume, bringing air from a different source isn't a big deal. Remember the old days when "cowl induction" was the thing? Just a different way of getting the air from a different location.
I can see it now, mounted on the flat hood of a PT, you have added the condenser from an automobile plumbed to your hydraulic lines for added cooling, and a roll cage to protect it, made out of hollow tubing that brings in already filtered air from high up above the normal dust cloud that the turbo'ed engine needs to do the additional work you have found for it in the field of blackberry distruction.
If I had a PT and wanted to move the air filter or add hydraulic cooling capacity, I don't think it would be a really big problem, but alas, I don't own one, yet.
David from jax
 
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My old IH had a flattened plastic snorkel that sat above the radiator to suck cool air from the front of the tractor. That went into several 4" rubber elbows and metal pipes for several feet before entering the air filter box, then a couple more feet to the side draft carb.
 
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woodlandfarms said:
A pipe broke while we we up north. The entire house flooded for more than 24 hours
These kind of horror stories have always prompted me to shut off the inside water main (which is easy since it is a ball valve on the line coming out of the wall in the basement, not messing with the valve in the box in the lawn) whenever we leave home for more then just the day... as well as opening all circuit breakers except for a couple vital ones (refrigerator, etc). I think my wife probably thinks I am a bit paranoid for some reason...
 
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Absolutely, We completely close down the house up north. Circuit breakers, water, the whole nine yards.

But LA has some 50's plumbing issues that were not resolved in the 1998 repipe. To water certain parts of the yard the water must be left on to the entire house. SUCK is all I can say...

Carl
 
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I would think that a little bit of pipe and your new trencher would fix having to leave the water on in the house.
I never shut mine of, and will probably live to regret it.
David from jax
 

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