Thanks all, yep, for better or worse it's my design, probably more work than necessary to accomplish the same thing, but nobody ever said I did things the easy way. Yeah Jim, I get to retire the blue tarp!!!! No more throwing rope over tree limbs. I'll leave it open for now, down the road we can enclose it if the need arises. Flusher, I'd be SOL if I had to pay that kind of money, we're out of the city limits, so we can build anything we want. Sometimes that's not a good thing, but most of the time it's a nice perk.