My New 4in1 Bucket Came In!

[ovrszd]

If you've ever used a dozer blade on a ctl for very long, you know it's marginal at best for dozing anything other than soft material, like trench backfilling. Even on a six-way, the blade is so close to the operator that you can't see the edge like you can on a dozer. That results in poor, uneven cuts and you can push more dirt with the bucket anyway. Look in any rental yard that has a dozer blade and you'll see that it does more sitting than anything. Operators use it once and don't bother to rent it again. I know I did. People think that since a ctl has tracks that it'll act like a dozer...it doesn't, it's a small track loader. Now, attach a set of wheels to a dozer blade like this Grader Attachment - Bobcat Company and it's a whole different animal. This will be the next attachment I purchase for grading out gravel roads, pads and arenas. Whichever one I choose will have detachable wings and have the ability to upgrade to laser capability.
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The HR model uses a welded on 3/4" edge instead of a bolt on in this position. That's more than enough for clamping and pushing out material at the end of a run. The inside edge of the clamshell will actually get more wear from backdragging hard material and I don't see many of those edges worn out for a long, long time. In my opinion, a bolt on edge on the dozer edge is an expensive add on and not really needed on a 4in1 attached to a skid steer or ctl.

Granted, the CA bucket is extremely well built and it is prettier. But, I'm not one of those guys that complains about a paint chip or painted over weld splatter on an attachment...I'm going to use and abuse it. At $1,000+ difference, the High Rock bucket choice was a no brainer.

I totally agree.

 

[RDrancher]

Could those hoses be shortened 6 - 8 " and still be able to fully dump the bucket ?

Yes, and maybe more. I ordered Paladin's weld-on hose saver kit from my Kubota dealer yesterday. Once I get it mounted, I'll see what the hose length looks like.

 

[EverythingAttachments]

I was just curious about the pros/cons. Some of the WR Long and Bradco 4in1s that we offer do not have bolt-on replaceable edges, but all of CA's do, including the one for compact tractors.
Travis

 

[RDrancher]

I was just curious about the pros/cons. Some of the WR Long and Bradco 4in1s that we offer do not have bolt-on replaceable edges, but all of CA's do, including the one for compact tractors.
Travis

No problem Travis. Maybe CA is trying to cover all the bases? I'm not knocking them at all, they do make some very nice attachments.

 

[Rustyiron]

My CA 4/1 was drilled for a bolt on BUCKET edge, but is was not a dedicated tooth bucket like RD's. I agree with RD, a dozer they are not. Just not enough weight, and you'll never wear out that back "dozer" edge. My tooth buckets just do not wear the edge like a smooth bucket. It seems the teeth get to do all the work and it will take many hundreds of hours to really rag out the c.e. (with teeth).
If you Everything Attachment guys are still watching this thread. I built a tooth bucket for my big Gehl because I could not find a big enough bucket necessary for that machine with the spacers for the OT tracks. I have run into a lot of guys that really liked what I built, mostly for the corner tooth detail. These guy's are used to that tooth on their tracked 953's -63's Cat machines. I have seen some pretty nice buckets but none with this detail.
It costs too much for me to build them for them at one at a time! The corner parts are Cat backhoe bucket PN's

 

[RDrancher]

I like that end tooth design a lot Rusty. Bradco has a tooth bucket with the end teeth angled outward. Nice for straight digging, but you really have to watch it cutting grade next to asphalt and even concrete, it'll break the edge on either without much effort. Your design looks much more efficient.

 

[MorningViewStables]

I have a Frontier 4-1 82" bucket on the front of a JD 5075M. It too weighs over a thousand pounds, but it is mounted on an H260 MSL loader and simply hang ballast (6' rotary cutter or box blade with a mounted water tank on top) off the back. I don't have any problem pushing it around as a dozer blade or with the clam closed.. I have wondered if I need the tooth bar. So far, I can't justify it. Congrats!

 

[EverythingAttachments]

My CA 4/1 was drilled for a bolt on BUCKET edge, but is was not a dedicated tooth bucket like RD's. I agree with RD, a dozer they are not. Just not enough weight, and you'll never wear out that back "dozer" edge. My tooth buckets just do not wear the edge like a smooth bucket. It seems the teeth get to do all the work and it will take many hundreds of hours to really rag out the c.e. (with teeth).
If you Everything Attachment guys are still watching this thread. I built a tooth bucket for my big Gehl because I could not find a big enough bucket necessary for that machine with the spacers for the OT tracks. I have run into a lot of guys that really liked what I built, mostly for the corner tooth detail. These guy's are used to that tooth on their tracked 953's -63's Cat machines. I have seen some pretty nice buckets but none with this detail.
It costs too much for me to build them for them at one at a time! The corner parts are Cat backhoe bucket PN's

Nice looking bucket!
Our heaviest, most durable bucket is the CA Severe Xtreme, which is available with weld-on teeth, bolt-on teeth or a tooth bar. The largest one one on our site is an 84", but they'd probably build a larger one. Ted talks about the tooth options in the video on that page.

CA started the Severe Xtreme line of buckets for added durability when the high HP Takeuchi tracked machines became so popular.
Travis

 

[EverythingAttachments]

I have a Frontier 4-1 82" bucket on the front of a JD 5075M. It too weighs over a thousand pounds, but it is mounted on an H260 MSL loader and simply hang ballast (6' rotary cutter or box blade with a mounted water tank on top) off the back. I don't have any problem pushing it around as a dozer blade or with the clam closed.View attachment 359374. I have wondered if I need the tooth bar. So far, I can't justify it. Congrats!

Lots of green in that pic!

 

[MorningViewStables]

Lots of green in that pic!

The paint confused you. The color was deliberate. Its RED, WHITE and BLUE. MADE IN USA by the good folk in my neighboring state of Georgia. What color is yours?