My new Jinma

   / My new Jinma #51  
The following weekend Loretta and I went up again.
Again we tried to start the tractor with no luck. We charged the battery and it cranked over well but would not catch. My Kama has no glow plugs so I didn't know anything about them. But I knew they were needed to start this model and several others like it. When she turned the key to the "preheat" position, there was no draw on the battery at all? Strange...

Of course, it was another cold and rainy weekend to top it all off.
Here are a couple photos from the driver's seat and one from under the dash.



Anyway, having learned that a faulty ground can lead to starting problems, Loretta got out the angle grinder to cut all the paint off the negative connection to the ground. She re-connected the cable using a "star" washer so it would bite into the metal better. We tried it again but it still didn't start!

 
   / My new Jinma #52  
The preheat on the switch did nothing so she started looking at the wiring and the glow plugs. She found the buss bar connecting the glow plugs, but no wires to it at all. :confused:



Further investigation showed that the fuse box did not have a fuse in it where the preheat fuse should be. As a matter of fact, there was no metal conductors in that spot at all. So we were pretty sure the glow plugs were not connected at all either.



At that point, Loretta took those photos and emailed them to Larry (gugliols), since he is an electronics expert. He confirmed the glow plugs were there, but we were right, there was no wiring to them. He told us to take a jumper cable from the positive battery terminal and connect the other end to the glow plug buss bar. We did that for about 30 seconds and immediately they heated up. We cranked the Jinma over and it fired on the 2nd crank. Man, were we ever happy.

 
   / My new Jinma #53  
Larry had given me a bunch of electrical tools, switches and fuses from his first visit, so I got out his tool box and found a fuse holder.
I found the preheat terminal on the switch and checked it with a volt meter and it was good. So I connected a 12ga wire with a 30 amp fuse to it. Then the other end to the glow plug's buss bar. I used the middle glow plug for the connection. That wire does not run through the regular Jinma fuse box.
Sorry, no photos of that installation though.

Shees, what a bunch of maroons leaving that wire and fuse off. :confused:
Now she can use the preheat on the switch just like it's supposed to be used.


Anyway, Once Loretta got on her tractor, she wanted to use it. Can't blame her, right?
So she started trying it out, digging with the fel bucket, tried 4wd and the rear differential lock ... all kinds of things. She didn't waste any time breaking it in and getting it dirty either. :)



 
   / My new Jinma #54  
The next thing we had read about the Jinmas is that sometimes the thermostat remains open or that there is a counter bore that allows water to bypass it. Thus, the tractor engine never heats up to operating temperature. This was the case with Loretta's tractor too. The water temperature gauge never showed any sign of warming up, even after running it for quite a while.

So we decided to take the thermostat out to look for the bad counter bore. But our surprise, the thermostat, a 78C one, fit the counter bore perfectly.
There was a gasket on top that made a perfect seal too ... no water bypassing that I could see.
So now what?



The only thing we did was remove and clean the thermostat and also the sensing conductor inside. We checked the wiring and it appeared OK. We had already ruined the factory gasket so we made a new one and put it all back together again.



Well, after doing that and starting it back up, the Jinma showed it was heating up alright.



Unfortunately, after shutting it down between working it, the water gauge once again stopped working. so we are kinda lost as to what that's all about. I guess we can take it apart and clean everything again and try it that way?
Maybe you have some suggestions there?
 
   / My new Jinma #55  
If you guys have any suggestions about her thermostat, or what else to check, we'd appreciate any feed back.

Loretta also got a bunch of implements to go with her tractor.
She got a 1 ton hydraulic dump trailer and a 5' tiller for her garden work.
Click on the images to enlarge them.



Also an 18 ton wood splitter and a 5' landscape rake.



Then a Jinma chipper and a set of Pat's EZ change system which we bought at the Ag Fair from Pat himself.
We still have to put those implements together, except Loretta already put Pat's system on herself.



This is a 5500w Diesel generator welder with electric start. It can weld in AC or DC. All I need to do is hook up the small air compressor and we have a complete system to take with us.

 
   / My new Jinma #56  
Wow Rob you can tell that Loretta learnt from a master! Love the color! Did you change out all those nasty chinese fluids? I would double check all your grounds especially to the dash for that temp problem. -Ed
 
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  • Thread Starter
#57  
tommu56 said:
When the tires get dirty take them off and run them through the dish washer.

Rob can show you how I'm sure he's done it before.:D

yeah, yeah, Tommy.... Rob told me about your plan with the existing gauge wheel....

hey, maybe that's why my dishwasher quit working!!
 
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  • Thread Starter
#58  
Ok - so a couple of you want to know about Honeybee's rescue mission (sorry, Rob, can't resist)

Well, the weekend after Rob brought Honeybee up, we hauled up the rest of the implements, along with our new appliances for the log home. We dropped off the appliances at the house, and drove the trailer down to camp to unload the rest.

It was cold and rainy, and Rob was trying to find a way to turn around so he could back the trailer up into the camp, near Huge Kama's garage. Me, being the tired, practical one, couldn't understand why he couldn't just drive straight in. So, I suggested he use the meadow to turn around in.

BAD. IDEA.

We managed to get our new Silverado truck stuck in the mud in the meadow.

VERY. STUCK.

We were able to unhook the trailer, and Rob tried and tried to get it unstuck. He's usually really, really good at that. But no dice. Oh me, oh my... what to do?

Well, that's what Huge Kama is for, right?

So, he drove Huge Kama down into the meadow, and we hooked up chains and tow straps and backed Kama up. The Silverado moved every so slightly, but this was at an angle, so it wasn't very efficient.

Rob drove Huge Kama down further into an area of the meadow that was at more right angles to the truck....... and promptly got Huge Kama stuck.

VERY. VERY. VERY. STUCK.

The back tires on Huge Kama are about 4 feet tall, and there was only about a foot showing. The frame was a foot under the mud. He tried and tried and could not get Huge Kama unstuck. Now we had BOTH vehicles good and stuck.

By this time, we were cold and wet and hungry. It was dark and pouring rain. We were both soaked. The next day was a work day and school day, but there was no choice but to go to bed and wait for the morning.

The next day, we started around 9am. It's amazing what a little sleep will do. We had thought about called the local road builder, knowing he had equipment that could do it. But there's just something about that that didn't sit right - like admitting defeat. We thought about calling Enterprise and renting a car to get home, leaving the vehicles until the mud dried out. The builders had just the day before sent the Grade-All back. While we were trying to figure out our options, one of the guys working on the house came up the road - and promptly got HIS 2WD truck stuck on the road. I suggested we get some gravel left over from building the septic tank. (I had suggested that the night before, but Rob said it would take too long... well, now we had all the time in the world). Rob wasn't too keen on taking ANY suggestions from me, since it was my suggestion that got us into this in the first place, but he finally agreed.

So, while I was working on digging the mud out around the truck, he hopped on Honeybee and drove up to the gravel pile. He brought a bucketful down, and then we shoveled it out and put it in front and behind the tires. We tried to use Honeybee to pull the Silverado out, but she started to tip right over (Bad Idea). But Rob rocked the truck forward and backward, and got it to move slightly. We then put gravel in the places that had been under the tires. Rob probably brought 4-5 buckets of gravel from the homesite. We spread it out like a 'road', and finally the Silverado was able to get out.

Now, what to do about Huge Kama.

While Rob was working on the Silverado, I was busy trying to dig Huge Kama out. The mud was just goo.. almost like quicksand. You could hit it with the flat side of the shovel and it would just wiggle like jello. I dug and dug and dug. I finally got most of the mud out from around the tires and the frame (while Rob was joyfully riding Honeybee with buckets of gravel).

We put logs and other pieces of wood in the huge holes. Then Rob drove Honeybee partway down with a load of gravel and we put that in the holes.
Rob drove Huge Kama backwards, and we filled holes. He drove forward and we filled holes. He drove backwards again and we filled holes. Finally, he was able to get Huge Kama out. It was now noon.

There aren't any pictures of these activities because we were just concentrating on getting out. And honestly, I Rob would have decapitated me if I had stopped digging just to get my camera out. But I did take some the next day:

Here are some pictures of Huge Kama after we got him out. You can see how far up the mud came:



Here's what the ground looked like the next morning:



Here's where the truck got stuck:




There was also a photo of Honeybee afterwards, wtih gravel still in the bucket... but I don't know where it is.

But, that's the story of Honeybee's rescue mission.
 
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   / My new Jinma #59  
Mrs.3RRL, I am so glad you and Honeybee finally got some time in on this thread.:) I don't think you'll ever have to worry about misplacing honeybee in the middle of the woods. :D I really like the dump trailer. :cool:

Congratulations on the equipment extrication. You two are real troopers.

Don
 
   / My new Jinma #60  
I love that story! I can also easily imagine myself in a similar situation. Its really cool that you have your own tractor. We share the one here, and it took 4 years to get her to use it. She uses it to haul manure from the cows barn and since I'm away a bit, during the week, she has even used the snoeblower to clear the driveway.
The new house is incredible! I am a bit envious.
Keep the stories coming!
 

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