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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
Awesome work Neal!
Awesome work Neal!
Neal's Root Rake Grapple
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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
Hi Wayne,
I would be glad to share any info I can, or take pictures of any area you would like. If you can make drawings for me to measure & fill in, would be great.
As mentioned before, I built this one to fit on an existing tool bar I had made with a quick attach for my tractor. Although it has worked flawlessly, it gave me concerns during construction about the strength of the outer edges. If I had it to do over, I think I would not take that shortcut and build the full width frame out of square tube. This might be even more important on your 90 HP tractor.
Some parts, I am not sure how I would give measurements in detail, like the shape of the grapple. I layed a piece of cardboard on the table, marked the hinge & bottom points, and made a freehand arc. When I was happy with what I saw, I then cut it out, held it up to the root rake and played like a hydraulic cylinder was moving it, then used it for a pattern to cut steel by.
One point that I like is, the teeth bypassing one another a fair amount. This allows you to not drop anything, once picked up.
I have not done a lot of pasture clearing, mostly removing grown up fence lines. I built a pasture renovator years ago and my small tractor would not pull it as deep as I wanted, then got a larger tractor & folded it up. I think 3 point sub soilers are fairly inexpensive. I wonder if they could handle that job?
Hi Wayne,
I would be glad to share any info I can, or take pictures of any area you would like. If you can make drawings for me to measure & fill in, would be great.
As mentioned before, I built this one to fit on an existing tool bar I had made with a quick attach for my tractor. Although it has worked flawlessly, it gave me concerns during construction about the strength of the outer edges. If I had it to do over, I think I would not take that shortcut and build the full width frame out of square tube. This might be even more important on your 90 HP tractor.
Some parts, I am not sure how I would give measurements in detail, like the shape of the grapple. I layed a piece of cardboard on the table, marked the hinge & bottom points, and made a freehand arc. When I was happy with what I saw, I then cut it out, held it up to the root rake and played like a hydraulic cylinder was moving it, then used it for a pattern to cut steel by.
One point that I like is, the teeth bypassing one another a fair amount. This allows you to not drop anything, once picked up.
I have not done a lot of pasture clearing, mostly removing grown up fence lines. I built a pasture renovator years ago and my small tractor would not pull it as deep as I wanted, then got a larger tractor & folded it up. I think 3 point sub soilers are fairly inexpensive. I wonder if they could handle that job?
dwl
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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
Neal, How/where did you connect our hydralic lines to operate the additional cyclinders for the grapple?
Did you use your aux lines at the rear of the tractor or did you tap into the loader connection?
Thanks
DWL
Neal, How/where did you connect our hydralic lines to operate the additional cyclinders for the grapple?
Did you use your aux lines at the rear of the tractor or did you tap into the loader connection?
Thanks
DWL
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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
Super job, real engineering project there. Bet it wouod even root rocks out of the first 6" of soil. May have to gander at the plans when they are available. Just got back from Fabco.. bought some bucket tips and teeth. Over to the steel dealer for the plate. Now just have to find a couple moments to fire up the wire feed and build the remainder of the tooth bar. Time goes too fast esp. when there are multiple projects waiting. Thanks for sharing the great pictures.
Super job, real engineering project there. Bet it wouod even root rocks out of the first 6" of soil. May have to gander at the plans when they are available. Just got back from Fabco.. bought some bucket tips and teeth. Over to the steel dealer for the plate. Now just have to find a couple moments to fire up the wire feed and build the remainder of the tooth bar. Time goes too fast esp. when there are multiple projects waiting. Thanks for sharing the great pictures.
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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
Yes, I am using the rear hydraulics.
I did previously try installing a 6 port selector valve, but had trouble with it leaking down and not supplying full hydraulic pressure, so I made a quick connect block up front & ran hoses from the rear hydraulics to this front mounted location.
This does mean I can't use both front & rear at the same time, but so far, has not been a problem for me.
Yes, I am using the rear hydraulics.
I did previously try installing a 6 port selector valve, but had trouble with it leaking down and not supplying full hydraulic pressure, so I made a quick connect block up front & ran hoses from the rear hydraulics to this front mounted location.
This does mean I can't use both front & rear at the same time, but so far, has not been a problem for me.
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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
man Neal !!! I am just building my "tree getter" ( cant wait) and NOW you've done went and got me thinkin AGAIN !!! I too make things fit MY tractor. only one question...WHERE are ya findin steel these days ?? it's like gold around here. My pile is gettin thin and replacement "stock" is cost prohibitive. Im green with envy her guy /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
man Neal !!! I am just building my "tree getter" ( cant wait) and NOW you've done went and got me thinkin AGAIN !!! I too make things fit MY tractor. only one question...WHERE are ya findin steel these days ?? it's like gold around here. My pile is gettin thin and replacement "stock" is cost prohibitive. Im green with envy her guy /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Re: Neal\'s Root Rake Grapple
Hi Terry,
Glad to hear your treegetter is in process. I think you will like it.
I havn't bought much steel lately, but the stories I hear are not pleasant. I did luck out a while back & a friend gave me 2or3 thousand lbs of steel (not used). How lucky can a guy be?
I have been using the Root Rake Grapple a lot, and the new has not worn off yet. I am still in awe of the amount of work it will do.
Hi Terry,
Glad to hear your treegetter is in process. I think you will like it.
I havn't bought much steel lately, but the stories I hear are not pleasant. I did luck out a while back & a friend gave me 2or3 thousand lbs of steel (not used). How lucky can a guy be?
I have been using the Root Rake Grapple a lot, and the new has not worn off yet. I am still in awe of the amount of work it will do.
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Free steel is GREAT..about 7 years ago I was given a dismantled indoor military gun range..I STILL have SOME left . the steel is literally bullet proof.Last year I used some to make an attachment for my FEL and went to a mfg company to have some holes punched....gotta call wanting to know " what the h*** is this stuff?! I broke a number of the punch dyes /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif. A torch still works though..man am I rambling or what ? I WANT A GRAPPLE /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Free steel is GREAT..about 7 years ago I was given a dismantled indoor military gun range..I STILL have SOME left . the steel is literally bullet proof.Last year I used some to make an attachment for my FEL and went to a mfg company to have some holes punched....gotta call wanting to know " what the h*** is this stuff?! I broke a number of the punch dyes /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif. A torch still works though..man am I rambling or what ? I WANT A GRAPPLE /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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the grapple looks awesome! i was wondering if you could post a picture of the underside where you attached the lower tines, or briefly explain how you did so, i am looking at making a root rake minus the grapple, and am worried about strength. Thanks Andy