whistlepig
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It surely doesn't hurt for him to ask. And it should be no less painful for you to say no.
Need "family advice"
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burnieman
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Friends and family can be a real pain in the arse. Just say no!
sixdogs
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Yes, unless you have aspecific farm or ag policy, once it leaves your property it is not covered. Look it up.
Occasionally I have people ask but it almost every instance they are leaches to begin with and just looking for a free lunch. I did help a guy out last year with several hours of no charge tractor work and my labor. He never really said thanks, expected me to fully clean up and when I wanted something from his trade he wanted to charge me the going rate. That's why I never loan. Never, and especially never to relatives.
The TBN has lots of posts of loaned tractors and stuff loaned that was damaged and how to try to collect from someone that said they would stand by any damage.
Occasionally I have people ask but it almost every instance they are leaches to begin with and just looking for a free lunch. I did help a guy out last year with several hours of no charge tractor work and my labor. He never really said thanks, expected me to fully clean up and when I wanted something from his trade he wanted to charge me the going rate. That's why I never loan. Never, and especially never to relatives.
The TBN has lots of posts of loaned tractors and stuff loaned that was damaged and how to try to collect from someone that said they would stand by any damage.
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I always point everybody that asks to borrow anything to the rental store.
A "out of work cousin" of mine once borrowed my dozer to make some money, trying to help him out I let him have it but after about six weeks of away time I called to tell I needed it and would pick it up, he stated someone had taken it a few weeks ago (this was a AC HD11, not a small thing). He did not call the sherriff or me. I went to visit to see what happened and noticed he had a new truck. To keep peace in family (since his mom is my favorite aunt) I let it go.
I do help neighbors from time to time, but as others have stated, I go with the equipment.
A "out of work cousin" of mine once borrowed my dozer to make some money, trying to help him out I let him have it but after about six weeks of away time I called to tell I needed it and would pick it up, he stated someone had taken it a few weeks ago (this was a AC HD11, not a small thing). He did not call the sherriff or me. I went to visit to see what happened and noticed he had a new truck. To keep peace in family (since his mom is my favorite aunt) I let it go.
I do help neighbors from time to time, but as others have stated, I go with the equipment.
Bob77064
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I have to agree with the advice given. Most times I have lent tools or power equipment I have regretted it.
Reyer Farms
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Another solution if saying no is too difficult. I know sometimes it is and most of the time you should not have to but....
Avoid all family gatherings, reunions, move to a secluded area, and make neighbors hate you. Never speak openly of any skills, items of value, trades you know, guard the ownership of pools and bass boats like national treasures, maintain all equipment too appear wore out and broke, complain of no vacation at your work, and never under circumstance breathe a word of the big buck you saw. Anytime you are expecting company dig a hole in the yard 3x7x8 and deny it is there when asked about it.
May you enjoy your investments in peace. Maybe there is a mooch away spray?
Avoid all family gatherings, reunions, move to a secluded area, and make neighbors hate you. Never speak openly of any skills, items of value, trades you know, guard the ownership of pools and bass boats like national treasures, maintain all equipment too appear wore out and broke, complain of no vacation at your work, and never under circumstance breathe a word of the big buck you saw. Anytime you are expecting company dig a hole in the yard 3x7x8 and deny it is there when asked about it.
May you enjoy your investments in peace. Maybe there is a mooch away spray?
sixdogs
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You are quite a guy to let that one slide.
Around here it would be 20 paces and fire but I do admire a favorite aunt. I still adore mine 30 years after her passing.
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All good strategies! But, seriously... This guy lives on the side of a mountain, so it will not be a small one weekend job. I told him that for the amount of work, a bigger, heavier machine would be best. He did look into rental prices and could not believe how much an extended rental costs. I am sure that our next meeting will get somewhat uncomfortable. What bothers me is that people like him don't take any appreciation in what it takes to have a clean tractor. I keep my 60K truck outside in the winter so that the tractor stays inside nice and warm. To him, my tractor is just a tool... Use it and put it away dirty.... Maybe in one piece.