Need French Drain Advice

[RobertN]

Run a french Drain there. Use solid pipe with holes(not corrugated. Put in a surface drain box too. Tie it in with you gutter down spouts. Nice neat and tidy /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Now, since that area is already kind of a swale, you might be able to do some minor grading, and direct the water to a surface drain box, near the corner of the building. Have the surface drain box tie directly to the downspout drain on the corner... You might get away with just a few feet of pipe, a Y, and a drain box.

 

[RobertN]

Run a french Drain there. Use solid pipe with holes(not corrugated. Put in a surface drain box too. Tie it in with you gutter down spouts. Nice neat and tidy /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Now, since that area is already kind of a swale, you might be able to do some minor grading, and direct the water to a surface drain box, near the corner of the building. Have the surface drain box tie directly to the downspout drain on the corner... You might get away with just a few feet of pipe, a Y, and a drain box.

 

[Highbeam]

I know a picture can be deceiving when trying to eyeball grades but I like option three if there is enough grade. Anytime you can just grade the surface to drain you take away potential failure points. The downspout system looks to be too shallow.

Option 3 for me. Cheapest one too.

 

[Highbeam]

I know a picture can be deceiving when trying to eyeball grades but I like option three if there is enough grade. Anytime you can just grade the surface to drain you take away potential failure points. The downspout system looks to be too shallow.

Option 3 for me. Cheapest one too.

 

[EddieWalker]

Mike,

I'm a HUGE fan on the KISS way of doing things. Keep it simple....

I also like cheap and easy when you get the same results as complicated and dificult.

Reminds me of a story about NASA. They needed a pen to write with in space. After millions in research they made on. The Russians just use pencils.

I don't know if this is true or not, but the point is that you can design and build an elaborate drain system the will work just fine. Migh take some maintenance down the road, and it can very well fail in a decade or two.

From the picture I saw of the water and the woods, it looks to me like the ground slopes down to the woods real nice.

How deep is your standing water??

It looks to me like it's not very deep and what you need to do is dig the drainage ditch at that depth into the woods so it will all drain out on it's own.

There's plenty of dirt there to remove, but if your gonna dig a trench for a french drain anyway, it's still half the work and no cost in materials. Maybe some grass seed or more rock to finish it off, but tha't to be done either route you chose.

MY vote is option 4. Open it up and let it drain off of the surface!!

Eddie

 

[EddieWalker]

Mike,

I'm a HUGE fan on the KISS way of doing things. Keep it simple....

I also like cheap and easy when you get the same results as complicated and dificult.

Reminds me of a story about NASA. They needed a pen to write with in space. After millions in research they made on. The Russians just use pencils.

I don't know if this is true or not, but the point is that you can design and build an elaborate drain system the will work just fine. Migh take some maintenance down the road, and it can very well fail in a decade or two.

From the picture I saw of the water and the woods, it looks to me like the ground slopes down to the woods real nice.

How deep is your standing water??

It looks to me like it's not very deep and what you need to do is dig the drainage ditch at that depth into the woods so it will all drain out on it's own.

There's plenty of dirt there to remove, but if your gonna dig a trench for a french drain anyway, it's still half the work and no cost in materials. Maybe some grass seed or more rock to finish it off, but tha't to be done either route you chose.

MY vote is option 4. Open it up and let it drain off of the surface!!

Eddie

 

[KentT]

If it were me, I'd go for option 1 and change your grade to take the water into the woods (assuming you own the woods). IMO, bringing it out to the driveway (option 3) just opens you up to possible erosion problems there...

If necessary you could put some small stones (6" or so) in the edge of the woods for a "splash pool" to slow it down and spread it out so it doesn't cause erosion there. But, I'd try it first without that extra work...

 

[KentT]

If it were me, I'd go for option 1 and change your grade to take the water into the woods (assuming you own the woods). IMO, bringing it out to the driveway (option 3) just opens you up to possible erosion problems there...

If necessary you could put some small stones (6" or so) in the edge of the woods for a "splash pool" to slow it down and spread it out so it doesn't cause erosion there. But, I'd try it first without that extra work...

 

[Doc_Bob]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Recently we regraded behind the pole barn to gently slope the ground where there used to be a drop-off. The rain-water wants to pool in this area so we need to install a French Drain to route the water away from the barn.

This is what we see after a rain. )</font>

Mike, put a deck around it, some chlorine and call it a pool. In the summer when a drought occurs, you can use it for watering /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously, run a pipe down the left side of your garage (when facing garage) and let it drain down the hill to those enourmous beaver ponds you have. You could just run a large hose (siphon it) during the rainy season. If the water is 24x7 problem, go for something fancier. If the water only shows up for a few days, weeks, go simple and cheap. It won't cost you anything to drain it with a hose for now.
Bob

 

[Doc_Bob]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Recently we regraded behind the pole barn to gently slope the ground where there used to be a drop-off. The rain-water wants to pool in this area so we need to install a French Drain to route the water away from the barn.

This is what we see after a rain. )</font>

Mike, put a deck around it, some chlorine and call it a pool. In the summer when a drought occurs, you can use it for watering /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Seriously, run a pipe down the left side of your garage (when facing garage) and let it drain down the hill to those enourmous beaver ponds you have. You could just run a large hose (siphon it) during the rainy season. If the water is 24x7 problem, go for something fancier. If the water only shows up for a few days, weeks, go simple and cheap. It won't cost you anything to drain it with a hose for now.
Bob